andy25 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I'm pretty sure they used to be in force when Talbot played Kilbirnie Beith and Cumnock. For some reason there was never any bother leaving the ground [emoji848]Why havent they been shared with any other club then? Wasn’t sent to Cove or any of your other opponents this past while and certainly wasn’t shared on your own clubs social media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I think we’ll have to agree to disagree. Its upsetting to hear allegations like the ones made but then it's also upsetting to essentially blindly victim blame in the process. Truth always comes out so dont get yourself wound up about it in the meanwhile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Why havent they been shared with any other club then? Wasn’t sent to Cove or any of your other opponents this past while and certainly wasn’t shared on your own clubs social media. Yes they are sent, exactly what clydebank was sent, including forthcoming forth and also previous opponents in the last month. I'm tagged in the emails and I'm sure this can be confirmed outwith myself. The same rules are on the Talbot website and also the forum Edited November 4, 2019 by Killiepiyo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Its upsetting to hear allegations like the ones made but then it's also upsetting to essentially blindly victim blame in the process. Truth always comes out so dont get yourself wound up about it in the meanwhile Look if anyone has let their club down im sure it will be dealt with. The incidents im talking about from previous visits have been discussed quite widely, but regardless it’s too far in the past for anyone to be identified. Looking forward im sure both clubs will work together to ensure its resolved properly, that would be positive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Look if anyone has let their club down im sure it will be dealt with. The incidents im talking about from previous visits have been discussed quite widely, but regardless it’s too far in the past for anyone to be identified. Looking forward im sure both clubs will work together to ensure its resolved properly, that would be positive. Agree.. to agree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Why havent they been shared with any other club then? Wasn’t sent to Cove or any of your other opponents this past while and certainly wasn’t shared on your own clubs social media. Well it's interesting that you think that Talbot didn't want to rile Cove when there was absolutely no love kost between the two clubs. I honestly don't see what purpose winding up an away support would achieve. Why would a club bring bother and the subsequent reputational damage to it's own door step? We've had our differences in the past but i think you're basically a good guy. I reckon you are losing the plot with this though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Well it's interesting that you think that Talbot didn't want to rile Cove when there was absolutely no love kost between the two clubs. I honestly don't see what purpose winding up an away support would achieve. Why would a club bring bother and the subsequent reputational damage to it's own door step? We've had our differences in the past but i think you're basically a good guy. I reckon you are losing the plot with this though. Im not losing the plot, I think it’s good we can debate this amongst decent fans from both clubs thus its not descended into abuse etc. The fact the segregation wasn’t advertised by your own club on social media is either in my opinion an absolute failure to communicate amongst your own fans or an attempt to rile up. The fact that no one approached your fans in the ‘away’ section and asked them to move to adhere to your own ground rules doesnt reassure me. Anyway, what’s done is done and as I said i’m sure both clubs will work together to resolve any issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFW Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 You're confusing egress and access to and from the ground with segregation. I run the Programme and Memorabilia Hut at Beechwood, and if there was full segregation I wouldn't have had loads of Bankies in there on Saturday. Even when there's full segregation away fans are never discouraged from going to the pie hut or myself. Segregation is a red herring, and, btw the vast majority of fans who were behind the goal are only a few years behind myself agewise ie they're due their bus passes soon if they don't have them already.They'd rather sit indoors and watch tv with a hot cup of cocoa rather than trying to punch someone's lights out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I went to school with the supporters who stand behind the goal, and when I heard they might be in a ruck down at the car park I decided to get down their ASAP. I'm still trying to get there, old age is a bugger. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot supporter Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I don't think all this talk about segregation would have been highlighted as much had Clydebank won also folk saying they won't be back at beechwood is maybe because the majority of the time yous are going away with a defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glens lad Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Let's not turn this into another Talbot bashing thread.Don't be a spoilsport Andy,[emoji23][emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike strutter Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 same old talbot ... they're never at fault ... i wonder how they'll react when sooner or later their own travelling fans are welcomed at away grounds in the same way they welcome visitors to beechwood ... I'm not advocating hostility but if they keep dishing it out they'll have no complaints when they receive a bit of their own medicine on their travels ?????... not the way forward but them the breaks i guess. What i am taking from the talbot fans responses is that any requests from their club for visiting fans to use certain gates and occupy certain areas can be considered as merely a verbal request and nothing more ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 "Why is there no incidents with Clydebank fans at any other grounds?" I wasn't at the game either and have no other comment to make,..but this bit isn't quite truthful now is it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, mike strutter said: same old talbot ... they're never at fault ... i wonder how they'll react when sooner or later their own travelling fans are welcomed at away grounds in the same way they welcome visitors to beechwood ... I'm not advocating hostility but if they keep dishing it out they'll have no complaints when they receive a bit of their own medicine on their travels ?????... not the way forward but them the breaks i guess. What i am taking from the talbot fans responses is that any requests from their club for visiting fans to use certain gates and occupy certain areas can be considered as merely a verbal request and nothing more ? FFS. Here I've to get tooled up to watch my team away from home. Can anybody honestly say that Talbot fans have caused any bother away from home in recent years. We had 300+ Lanark fans at Beechwood and not a hint of trouble. It's maybe this attitude by yourself that causes bother between both sets of supporters. It seemingly was a small minority from both sides that were involved, not a Leeds/Millwall tear up. Next days chip paper! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFW Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, mike strutter said: same old talbot ... they're never at fault ... i wonder how they'll react when sooner or later their own travelling fans are welcomed at away grounds in the same way they welcome visitors to beechwood ... I'm not advocating hostility but if they keep dishing it out they'll have no complaints when they receive a bit of their own medicine on their travels ?????... not the way forward but them the breaks i guess. What i am taking from the talbot fans responses is that any requests from their club for visiting fans to use certain gates and occupy certain areas can be considered as merely a verbal request and nothing more ? You won't realise it, obviously, but you've just hit upon why football violence sometimes - unfortunately - happens, with your remark "I'm not advocating hostility BUT......" which means you ARE advocating hostility. Therein could lie a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot supporter Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 There's been plenty of times when fans use the same gate and stand near opposing fans with no issues, so why was there an issue on Saturday. it's nothing to do with segregation - it's an attitude problem and sounds like sour grapes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike strutter Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 hours ago, TFW said: You won't realise it, obviously, but you've just hit upon why football violence sometimes - unfortunately - happens, with your remark "I'm not advocating hostility BUT......" which means you ARE advocating hostility. Therein could lie a problem. No m8 ... I’m not ... it’s obviously just the way you think things through.. I say one thing then you regurgitate it in your mind and imply I mean an other ... sorry , but that won’t work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFW Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Your words don't lie. It's like folk saying "I'm not a racist, but....." "I'm not advocating hostility but...." strikes exactly the same chord, and I'm sorry if you don't want to see that, because it's nothing at all to do with me regurgitating anything, it's your own words. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike strutter Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, TFW said: Your words don't lie. It's like folk saying "I'm not a racist, but....." "I'm not advocating hostility but...." strikes exactly the same chord, and I'm sorry if you don't want to see that, because it's nothing at all to do with me regurgitating anything, it's your own words. No it’s not ... it’s you having an opinion on what I’m saying , being wrong , but still trying to convince me that what your saying is what I’m meaning... which it isn’t ... so don’t tar me with the same idiotic opinion as your own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot supporter Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I am sure none of this would have happened had clydebank won the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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