General Election 2019 - AND IT’S LIVE!

[welshbairn]

7 minutes ago, sophia said:

This once in a generation guff is tedious and does nothing to hide a paucity of purpose.

Listen carefully and you will hear politicians use the phrase repeatedly.

It's code for "This is really important, get out and vote", otherwise meaningless.

[Malky3]

2 hours ago, johnnydun said:

TBF, it's not for the SNP or any other politcal party to decide if it is once in a generation or not. It is for the voters of Scotland to decide, and currently there is enough appetite for it.

If we all voted Green, would you use the same "once in a generation" argument?

The point is though that Scotland has NEVER indicated that there is a majority who wants Indy Ref 2 - never mind Scottish Independence. It's just a very noisy undemocratic minority of fundamentalist nationalists who just won't accept what the rest of us have told them. 

[Bairnardo]

The point is though that Scotland has NEVER indicated that there is a majority who wants Indy Ref 2 - never mind Scottish Independence. It's just a very noisy undemocratic minority of fundamentalist nationalists who just won't accept what the rest of us have told them. 

No, its the people who vote for them, you thick c**t

[Malky3]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

It's code for "This is really important, get out and vote", otherwise meaningless.

Nope, it's quite explicit. The problem is the promise, vow, pledge - whatever you want to call it - was made by politicians who are programmed to lie like crazy because their jobs depend on it. 

When the SNP put it in their White Paper, it was a vow to the Scottish public, just like the one Gordon Brown made on the front page of the Daily Record, or like the one Jeremy Corbyn makes today about nationalising everything, paying Waspi women, and charging the whole thing to 5% of the population. The nationalists have no right to the moral high ground. Sturgeon's and Blackford's Pinocchio habit is just as bad as Boris Johnson. 

Politicians lie whether they are Scottish or English, or French, German, Saudi, American or Russian. We should all understand that this is the default position of a politician and of political parties and we should be treating them with a healthy level of distrust. What the electorate should be asking themselves is how dangerous and damaging could the lie they are telling be? I heard a caller on LBC last week say that he now reads each parties manifesto with the automatic assumption that each leader will be too incompetent to deliver what they promise, so he was going to vote on the principle that if the manifesto pledges fail to deliver which will do least damage to the majority of Brits. He concluded that he HAD to vote Conservative. 

[Malky3]

5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

10 minutes ago, Malky3 said:

The point is though that Scotland has NEVER indicated that there is a majority who wants Indy Ref 2 - never mind Scottish Independence. It's just a very noisy undemocratic minority of fundamentalist nationalists who just won't accept what the rest of us have told them. 

No, its the people who vote for them, you thick c**t

Wow, said by the thickest of the lot. 

Do you want to try again in English? 

[johnnydun]

8 minutes ago, Malky3 said:

The point is though that Scotland has NEVER indicated that there is a majority who wants Indy Ref 2 - never mind Scottish Independence. It's just a very noisy undemocratic minority of fundamentalist nationalists who just won't accept what the rest of us have told them. 

2011 SPE - 53% SNP

2015 GE - 50% SNP

2016 SPE - 53% SNP & Green

To say it has never been indicated is shite.

 

 

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

2011 SPE - 53% SNP
2015 GE - 50% SNP
2016 SPE - 53% SNP & Green
To say it has never been indicated is shite.
 
 

Thought you were voting Tory, Johnny?

[John Lambies Doos]

Ok.. I know Sinn Fein were discussed during Brexit but in essence if they did take seats their was still enough to vote against Government. But let's say Torys got majority of 5.. would Sinn Fein take their seats and vote Brexit down.
I think it's highly unlikely but could you imagine the utter seath in middle England. Held to ransom by the IRA would be the call [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
I'd imagine that would be a catalyst to an independent England

[dorlomin]

6 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

But let's say Torys got majority of 5.. would Sinn Fein take their seats and vote Brexit down.

No. Irish nationalist abstensionism goes back to the mid 19th century. Its in their political DNA. 

Edited December 8, 2019 by dorlomin

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

The point is though that Scotland has NEVER indicated that there is a majority who wants Indy Ref 2 - never mind Scottish Independence. It's just a very noisy undemocratic minority of fundamentalist nationalists who just won't accept what the rest of us have told them. 

The SNP Loyal struggle with the concept of democracy. I’ve been told by several of them on here that Scotland is being undeomcratically removed from the EU, despite democratically voting to be part of a Union that voted to leave. They also think we should have a ‘confirmatory referendum’ and ignore the democratic vote we already had, incase people ‘change their minds’. Baffling sore loser mentality from them.

[Chapelhall chap]

9 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

No. Irish nationalist abstensionism goes back to the mid 19th century. Its in their political DNA. 

Sinn Fein was founded in 1905 and does have abstention. The nationalist movement parties took their seats in Westminster before 1914 and were crucial to the Home Rule Acts of the Liberal Government after 1906.

[Donathan]

2011 SPE - 53% SNP
2015 GE - 50% SNP
2016 SPE - 53% SNP & Green
To say it has never been indicated is shite.
 
 

The only one of these vote share figures that’s correct is the 2015 one

[Donathan]

SLab ought to have been able to clean up by saying they oppose both independence and Brexit, but their leadership is so fucking incompetent

[John Lambies Doos]

SLab ought to have been able to clean up by saying they oppose both independence and Brexit, but their leadership is so fucking incompetent

No they wouldn't

[D Angelo Barksdale]

The worrying thing for me is that Tarmo and Malky's nonsense doesn't even come close to the stuff punted out by the media.

[Miguel Sanchez]

I'm still not unconvinced that Tarmo Kink isn't previously banned user BarraJag. 

[BawWatchin]

Swinson getting absolutely gang banged here.

[Malky3]

1 hour ago, johnnydun said:

2011 SPE - 53% SNP

2015 GE - 50% SNP

2016 SPE - 53% SNP & Green

To say it has never been indicated is shite.

 

 

2011 - the SNP got 45.4% of the constituency vote, and 44% of the regional votes. 

2015 - the SNP did get 50%

2016 - the SNP got 46.5% of the constituency vote and 41.7% of the regional vote. 

You shouldn't be making up figures Johnnydun. It's far too easy to check. 

 

[Ludo*1]

17 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

I'm still not unconvinced that Tarmo Kink isn't previously banned user BarraJag. 

That would make a lot of sense.

[ICTJohnboy]

13 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

I'm still not unconvinced that Tarmo Kink isn't previously banned user BarraJag. 

 

I'm at a loss to understand why he chose to adopt as his username, the name of one of the worst signings Caley Thistle ever made.