welshbairn Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Worth a read for the vainglorious unreconstructed centrists out there. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/19/left-labour-michael-foot-tony-blair Edited December 19, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Uneducated people voting Tory; educated people not voting Tory. Uneducated (thick as f**k) bigoted old c***s ensuring large swathes of another generation will probably not get the education they deserve. What a wonderful world. You are a bigot. This is the kind of scumbag argument you would get from tories back when low income voters (who tend to have lower educational attainment) would vote Labour. They were all "thick as f*ck" and that was why they voted Labour. But let us examine the depth of human sewage your vile logic leads us too. Quote 72.2% of Chinese students were awarded a top degree (a degree attainment gap of 6.6 percentage points) 70.7% of Indian students (a gap of 8.1 percentage points) 61.8% of Pakistani students (a gap of 17.0 percentage points) 50.5% of Black Other students (a gap of 28.3 percentage points) https://www.advance-he.ac.uk/guidance/equality-diversity-and-inclusion/student-recruitment-retention-and-attainment/degree-attainment-gaps Blacks are far less likely to obtain top degrees than the average. According to you "thick as f**k" (because you are a scumbag). to me because background has a huge impact on educational attainment. Again showing that non whites are less likely to gain a degree in the UK than whites, thus "thick as f*ck" You being a c**t is nothing new. No one else have the morals to call you on it? Well that is the norm round here as well. [Cue you deliberately misrepresenting what is said in 5...4...3..] Edited December 19, 2019 by dorlomin -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Dorlomin backing up the hypothesis that tories are indeed "thick c***s". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, dorlomin said: You are a bigot. This is the kind of scumbag argument you would get from tories back when low income voters (who tend to have lower educational attainment) would vote Labour. They were all "thick as f*ck" and that was why they voted Labour. But let us examine the depth of human sewage your vile logic leads us too. https://www.advance-he.ac.uk/guidance/equality-diversity-and-inclusion/student-recruitment-retention-and-attainment/degree-attainment-gaps Blacks are far less likely to obtain top degrees than the average. According to you "thick as f**k" (because you are a scumbag). to me because background has a huge impact on educational attainment. Again showing that non whites are less likely to gain a degree in the UK than whites, thus "thick as f*ck" You being a c**t is nothing new. No one else have the morals to call you on it? Well that is the norm round here as well. [Cue you deliberately misrepresenting what is said in 5...4...3..] Misrepresenting? Oh the irony. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Again showing that non whites are less likely to gain a degree in the UK than whites, thus "thick as f*ck" That table doesn’t show what you think it shows. It shows that Asian people make up a higher proportion of FE learners compared to the number of Asian people in the overall population, it shows that black people make up a higher proportion of FE learners compared to the number of black people in the overall population, white people make up a lesser proportion of FE learners compared with the number of white people in the overall population. Just thought I would point this out before you go off on a mad rant... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, The OP said: That table doesn’t show what you think it shows. It shows that Asian people make up a higher proportion of FE learners compared to the number of Asian people in the overall population, it shows that black people make up a higher proportion of FE learners compared to the number of black people in the overall population, white people make up a lesser proportion of FE learners compared with the number of white people in the overall population. Just thought I would point this out before you go off on a mad rant... You’re a bit late... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: You’re a bit late... Yes, the irony was intentional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Misrepresenting? Oh the irony. You have made bigoted smears against the English working class. In fact against anyone who comes from a community where access to higher education is lower than average "less degrees = thick as f**k". You cannot defend this. Instead you are trying to whip up an internet "pile on". You lack the articulacy to engage substantively. This is to be expected and one must make allowances for your obvious deficiencies. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, dorlomin said: You have made bigoted smears against the English working class. THEY WOT M8?!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, dorlomin said: You have made bigoted smears against the English working class. In fact against anyone who comes from a community where access to higher education is lower than average "less degrees = thick as f**k". You cannot defend this. Instead you are trying to whip up an internet "pile on". You lack the articulacy to engage substantively. This is to be expected and one must make allowances for your obvious deficiencies. This self superior rejection of an opponent’s ability to debate would be more convincing if you didn’t produce tables which repudiate the point you are making. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The OP said: That table doesn’t show what you think it shows. This is a fair criticism of that data. I do apologise. However the rest of the post still stands. Edited December 19, 2019 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, The OP said: This self superior rejection of an opponent’s ability to debate would be more convincing if you didn’t produce tables which repudiate the point you are making. 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: For some time now I've been trying and failing to get what dorlomin likes, just about everything makes him angry. 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Uneducated (thick as f**k) bigoted old c***s ensuring large swathes of another generation will probably not get the education they deserve. What a wonderful world. 45 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: M9 log off for the night, you need a rest. 45 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: Dorlomin backing up the hypothesis that tories are indeed "thick c***s". 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Misrepresenting? Oh the irony. Such debating skills! -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) This is completely anecdotal but my own experience is that immigrant communities tend to be more aspirational and have more faith in higher education’s ability to lift them out of their lowly situation than members of the native underclass do. The native underclass tend to have far less faith and are less optimistic about their ability to succeed. What is ironic is that a lot of people in the formerly industrial areas of Northern England (outwith the big cities) seem to have forgotten that it was the Tories who helped put them into a permanent underclass in the first place. They have found other bogeymen. Edited December 19, 2019 by The OP 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, dorlomin said: "less degrees = thick as f**k". I assume you mean "fewer degrees", you thick f*cker? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: Not sure what's more unexpected. dorlomin making an arse of himself over a hilariously incorrect analysis of some university statistics or GrannyDanger spouting more bigoted pish. I am completely offended by that but, as it’s the season of goodwill, I will pass it off. I hope Santa brings you another pretend doctorate for Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, oaksoft said: If I ever need any part of my life, including my academic fantasies, validated by an antisemitic, anti-English racist I'll be sure to give you a shout. FTFY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 There's a substantial chance Jo Swinson lost her seat because the council (lib dem/tory) closed a bowling green:All news is local, all politics is local. pic.twitter.com/mqEGJwc7hp— Scott Reid [emoji368] (@scottreid1980) December 20, 2019 Well that's delicious considering she has spent the last few years slating the SNP for things outwith their control 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: There's a substantial chance Jo Swinson lost her seat because the council (lib dem/tory) closed a bowling green: She had to jack in being an MP after they brought her career to an end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: She had to jack in being an MP after they brought her career to an end. Swinson said she was going to be the next Prime Minister. The bowling club thought it was a lawn shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 'mon the oldies! this is truly the start of the revolution .... oh and if it's pundetry ... the union is drawing to it's end 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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