JamieThomas Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Tory Party Political Broadcast - SNP Bad. No to Indyref2. That’s pretty much their message. Again. Forever. They stand for nothing but opposing Indyref2. They have become a single issue party. Tbf it's well known they'll always stand for murdering the poor, disabled and non white 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: They said they were on high alert for elections which to my dumb brain implies a lot of activity around selecting candidates and that but they seem to have chosen a horrible man to stand in Kirkcaldy regardless. So they either weren't really doing much and said it for effect or they're a bit crap at vetting candidates. What has he said/done/written that makes him horrible? He may well be horrible but I’d like to know his crime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 BBC reporting one if the "offences" was liking a post depicting George Soros as a puppet master controlling world leaders. WTF got to be more to it than that. The SNP candidate has been dropped after “allegations of anti-Semitism”. I cannot find any reference to what he has said/done/written. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/28/revealed-tory-candidates-issued-with-attack-manuals-on-how-to-smear-rivals? Revealed: Tory candidates issued with attack manuals on how to smear rivals Working a treat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Billy Jean King said: BBC reporting one if the "offences" was liking a post depicting George Soros as a puppet master controlling world leaders. WTF got to be more to it than that. And yet we have spent years trying to show the far right promoting ant semitic conspiracy theories around George Soros https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49584157 Are you unware of this? Or that it is a rehashing of the "Rothschild" conspiracy theories? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Absolutely bizarre being anti-semitic in Scotland. There's literally more Kilmarnock fans than there are Jewish folk in the country. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Some candidates have been done for accounts they closed years ago. It would be hard to check, and do they have the staff to comb through 10 years of social media accounts anyway?It's my understanding that during political candidate vetting invariably the candidates are asked directly if there is anything in their past history which may reflect badly at some future point. Social media has now amplified that 1000 times.However there is no a risk of Salem witch-hunts for anyone who has ever laughed at a Bernard Manning joke, and that's most of us. Maybe the answer is for politicians to keep clear of social media, or at least keep the heid and only post when sober. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Well aware of Soros and his background. Just feel the whole anti semitism thing is getting more tenuous by the day. Yes Soros is a Jew but an image of him controlling puppets of world leaders is not anti semitic. There must be more to this. And yet we have spent years trying to show the far right promoting ant semitic conspiracy theories around George Soros https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49584157 Are you unware of this? Or that it is a rehashing of the "Rothschild" conspiracy theories? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: anyone who has ever laughed at a Bernard Manning joke 5 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: and that's most of us. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: BBC reporting one if the "offences" was liking a post depicting George Soros as a puppet master controlling world leaders. WTF got to be more to it than that. If this is the only “offence” then not grounds for being dropped; I’m assuming there is more to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Well aware of Soros and his background. Just feel the whole anti semitism thing is getting more tenuous by the day. Yes Soros is a Jew but an image of him controlling puppets of world leaders is not anti semitic. It is literally part of the campaign of hate the Nazis used. (Jews control world finance). https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/International_Jewish_conspiracy Quote The existence of an international Jewish conspiracy (or international Zionist conspiracy) is an anti-Semitic canard which regularly features in various racist conspiracy theories. Quote More recently there have been conspiracy theories targeting financier George Soros, whose actions including promoting liberal democracy in eastern Europe and opposing Brexit in the UK are seen as part of a Jewish conspiracy to impose western rule on Eastern Europe and deny the will of the British people.[14] Also the idea of one person controlling world finance or anything similar is a conspiracy theory. Quote A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful actors, often political in motivation,[2][3] when other explanations are more probable.[4] The term has a pejorative connotation, implying that the appeal to a conspiracy is based on prejudice or insufficient evidence.[5] Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it, are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth,[5][6] and the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than proof.[7][8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Edited November 28, 2019 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Interesting that the Tory message (apart from Stop Indy Ref 2), is always that Labour would tax and spend and destroy the public finances. Yet, in the last 9 years, The UK has grown to have the sixth-largest government debt out of 26 advanced economies, and the fifth-largest budget deficit out of 35 advanced economies, (heading for 88.8% of national income this year). Ironically, public spending under the Tories of late has been a fair shade higher than under the Blair govts as well. Naturally, public spending had to increase post crash due to the significantly reduced tax receipts. (these receipts being only 0.03% higher now than they were in 2010). Heath, Pensions and Overseas Aid are the only 'plus' spending areas since 2010 while education and defence have been cut. https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9180 https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/recent_spending Conclusions from all that....despite Tory accusations of Labour always running up national debt, it is the Tories who have significantly grown national debt over the last 9 years, although in fairness, the overall deficit has come down. Next up...could Labour's plans to spend been absorbed within the economy..unlikely, and lastly, we hear a lot about Scotland running a fiscal deficit which is unsustainable,black holes etc, and yet the UK manages to run with nearly 90% of debt to public income, and has the 5th largest budget deficit out of 35 comparable countries, yet how often do we hear about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Well aware of Soros and his background. Just feel the whole anti semitism thing is getting more tenuous by the day. Yes Soros is a Jew but an image of him controlling puppets of world leaders is not anti semitic. There must be more to this. Evil Jewish puppet master controlling the world is literally anti semitic trope 101. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Leaders of all the parties taking part in a debate on channel 4 right now.Johnson isn’t there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Plaid Cymru leader having a fucking nightmare there, Jesus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 More Trumpian nonsense. Tories threaten to review C4 licence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Ha! Brilliant, at the end of that debate Nicola says “I’m the only one here who’s in government and we need to do more, we aren’t doing enough.” Few annoyed reactions followed as the cameras turned away to conclude the show but you could just make out the Green Leader saying “well you’re doing a good job!” and Nicola saying “thank you! Green Leader btw, just going to say it but WID. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Leaders of all the parties taking part in a debate on channel 4 right now.Johnson isn’t there.His ice-sculpture is though, as is Farage’s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Well aware of Soros and his background. Just feel the whole anti semitism thing is getting more tenuous by the day. Yes Soros is a Jew but an image of him controlling puppets of world leaders is not anti semitic. There must be more to this. What do you think of these comments? Quote Orbán attacked Soros at an election rally last year, saying: “We are fighting an enemy that is different from us. Not open, but hiding; not straightforward but crafty; not honest but base; not national but international; does not believe in working but speculates with money; does not have its own homeland but feels it owns the whole world.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 It's my understanding that during political candidate vetting invariably the candidates are asked directly if there is anything in their past history which may reflect badly at some future point. Social media has now amplified that 1000 times. However there is no a risk of Salem witch-hunts for anyone who has ever laughed at a Bernard Manning joke, and that's most of us. Maybe the answer is for politicians to keep clear of social media, or at least keep the heid and only post when sober.It's a horrible anti Semitic trope but can you unlike a post if you do it accidently (genuine question, I don't have social media)? I do know that I've liked a few posts on here by accident or at least changed my mind a few mins later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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