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Just now, oaksoft said:

Why would you compare an illegal activity such as benefits fraud with perfectly legal tax avoidance?

In Vodafone's case, it's not clear that it was perfectly legal - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/22/vodafone-tax-case-leaves-sour-taste

 

And also, because I can do maths. Or do I have to call it math now?

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1 minute ago, speckled tangerine said:

Reality for fictional benefit claimant:

Universal credit single person allowance- £317.82 per month.

Council tax paid if unemployed.

Rent paid probably in full if council tenant, but subject to local housing allowance if private rent. (May have to chip in difference if more than LHA)

 

Aye. Fictional benefit claimant living the dream on eighty quid a week or less. 

Saved me the bother of posting something similar. (I didn't know the figures off hand).

There is no doubt you can survive fairly comfortably on circa £80.00/week provided 1/ You don't run a car 2/ You don't socialise 3/ You don't need to buy clothes or shoes 4/ You don't buy your family birthday or Christmas presents. (I've done it).

 

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Just now, Jacksgranda said:

Saved me the bother of posting something similar. (I didn't know the figures off hand).

There is no doubt you can survive fairly comfortably on circa £80.00/week provided 1/ You don't run a car 2/ You don't socialise 3/ You don't need to buy clothes or shoes 4/ You don't buy your family birthday or Christmas presents. (I've done it).

 

And if you don't have any clothes or shoes, socialising's gonna be kinda difficult. Bunch of prudes these days. 

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1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

Did you forget to add tax credits for being "self employed"?

Poor old fictional benefit claimant. He's been found not gainfully self employed and therefore the minimum income floor has been employed.

Nae tax credits and he's now expected to self report earnings equivalent to 35 hours on minimum wage or find a job.

What ever will the poor c**t do??

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For the love of god. You are lucky I've run out of red dot privileges for the day.
#What an absolutely ridiculous post.
Benefit fraud is ILLEGAL. Period.
Tax avoidance is not.
Learn the difference.
Tax evasion is illegal and it's THIS which needs clamped down on alongside and at exactly the same time as benefits fraud.
Except activities that are considered avoidance can be categorised as evasion once they're examined by HMRC. Such as loans that are never paid back, for instance. The problem with the Tory party is that they have cut HMRC's budget to the point where the activities of those who are most likely to be evading taxes are no longer regularly investigated. It's estimated that benefit fraud costs the country about £1.2 Bn p.a. but tax evasion costs £4.4 Bn. Probably more, since there's no one left to check.
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17 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said:

You underestimate me, I know the difference between evasion and avoidance.  My posts have clearly stated that tax avoidance is immoral.  Those that support it are too. 

Now take your ridiculous post and put it back in your gob.  

Tbf, you did say (quote)"Basically forget the tax avoidance schemes used by billionaires that cost the economy billions in lost revenue, but blame the poor person in the street" before saying that both were immoral.  This still translates into 'why target the illegal action when going after the perfectly legal action will be better for the public purse'.

Eta:  This isn't me condoning large scale tax avoidance.

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Scenes If she loses by one vote! I'd laugh like a fucking drain!
What's funnier is that my Dad who lives on the cusp of the Angus constituency is also on holiday with my step-mum - they both got postal votes.

They both voted SNP for the first time in their lives - both traditional Labour voters who've had enough.
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Just now, Granny Danger said:

It takes a certain type of moron to defend multi national companies who use devices to avoid paying a reasonable level of tax on their profits.

 

And a certain type of utter pondlife to tell a guy doing a shift at a foodbank that he's virtue signaling. Same individual. 

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I think 2 posters from here have randomly appeared on my twitter timeline, discussing their voting intentions.

@craigkillie and the St johnstone fan whose name on here escapes, she's been ill recently and married to the old Falkirk fan. 
 

Not discussing with each other I may add, seperate tweets. 

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For the love of god. You are lucky I've run out of red dot privileges for the day.
#What an absolutely ridiculous post.
Benefit fraud is ILLEGAL. Period.
Tax avoidance is not.
Learn the difference.
Tax evasion is illegal and it's THIS which needs clamped down on alongside and at exactly the same time as benefits fraud.
I think tbh that is what he means.

That being said there is sometimes a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax evasion - as we saw with a certain football club.
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3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:
7 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:
I think 2 posters from here have randomly appeared on my twitter timeline, discussing their voting intentions.
[mention=11624]craigkillie[/mention] and the St johnstone fan whose name on here escapes, she's been ill recently and married to the old Falkirk fan. 

Honest saints fan and rugster

That’s the one. 

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