Mark Connolly Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wonder what odds you'd get on all 3 of Boris, Corbyn and Swinson getting punted? Unlikely I know, but it would be fucking hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I normally love a good General Election, but the Tories are absolutely winning this, which is going to be a fabulous Christmas present for the most vulnerable in society. Still, taking back control, eh. At least there's always "The UK's next Prime Minister" to cheer us up. That's precious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Prediction - Labour to lose heartlands in north England to TBP & Tories - Corbyn resigns. Swinson to lose her seat - Resigns.Lib Dem’s & Labour both pick up seats in remain voting Tory Seats.Tories have a small majority. SNP To take 48 seats in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: From a similar mould as Ruth Davidson For a Strong Opposition Party - at least that's what I assume that party was called, since there was no other mention of a name anywhere in the branding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Gonna be a long 43 days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Reckon the SNP will get 55 seats, 3 LD and 1 Lab (Murray) the other with a Tory wipeout in Scotland. In England closer than expected but the Tories with the most seats, Brexit Party 0, but with enough % to damage the Tories, letting in Lab and LD in some places. So, another hung parliament, but I still think the LDs will be itching to get those ministerial seats back and will sell out again for some sop about another vote on changing the voting system, while allowing Johnston to put Brexit through. They sat the night before 2010 and said tuition fees were their absolute red line, so they won't have any qualms about ditching the EU this time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: I think people forget how many people who normally vote Tory voted Remain. They won't go to Labour but the Lib Dems could eat into their vote, winning some seats for themselves but also handing some to Labour. I think there's a lot of truth in this. We were on holiday in Italy recently and met some 'natural' Tories' who cannot stand Johnson and do not wish Brexit. Much of the Tory vote lies in the professional middle classes, and to be blunt the more you travel up the intellectual scale the less Brexiteers you'll find. There is also the fact that this GE is effectively a de facto Referendum 2 on Brexit, and whilst the electorate doesn't normally do protest votes at GE I think this could be an exception. This could benefit the Lib Dems. Much is being made of Labour voters in the North of England transferring to Johnson to 'get Brexit done'. I think this is overcooked; it's one thing to take a punt on the Brexit Party in a Euro Election, but crossing the divide in a GE is another matter. I also predict that Johnson really has f**k all positive to roll out ahead of 12/12 and already the theme is 'Just Get It Done' - it's already sounding like 'Brexit Means Brexit'. If the opposition parties continually hammer home the NHS, rampant inequality, homelessness, austerity and Universal Credit and all the real life issues then this couldget interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 SNP should go balls out on independence if they want a good litmus test for how an indyref2 might fare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: Can't see any scenario where the Tories will be wiped out in Scotland. Labour might be though. Lib Dems will take a few as well. Maybe even a surprise with the Brexit Party taking a seat or two. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Can't see any scenario where the Tories will be wiped out in Scotland. Labour might be though. Lib Dems will take a few as well. Maybe even a surprise with the Brexit Party taking a seat or two. In Scotland? Which one or two? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Runs a successful business..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think people forget how many people who normally vote Tory voted Remain. They won't go to Labour but the Lib Dems could eat into their vote, winning some seats for themselves but also handing some to Labour. You could say same thing in Labour seats ie, they vote lib Dems and let Torys through back door. If Johnson can come to some agreement with Farage then a Tory majority is a shoe in What a great word "if". I suspect Farage will offer a pact "if" the Tories surrender to everything he wants. Just because both parties are obnoxious does not mean that they actually like each other. After all, in a lots of cases, they are chasing the same voters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I one day wish to live in an independent Scotland that reflects an equal and fair society, therefore I will obviously be voting for the Scottish National Party. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The tories are now the "brexit" party they dont need him What a great word "if". I suspect Farage will offer a pact "if" the Tories surrender to everything he wants. Just because both parties are obnoxious does not mean that they actually like each other. After all, in a lots of cases, they are chasing the same voters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 SNP for me, don't see any real alternative and to be honest I'm pretty happy with the SNPs policies, performance and their stance on Brexit. My current MP is Labour, wee Ged Killen, and though he doesn't seem like a bad guy, he does seem to be mostly pointless. He also spent Monday and Tuesday morning having a complete meltdown about the prospect of a election, calling the SNP and Lib Dems Boris little helpers, before Corbyn humiliated him by also backing it, so I'm guessing he doesn't fancy his chances much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 There are already Labourites out campaigning on Byres Road. I've seen several folk laugh at them over the last few days, going to be a tough few weeks for them here I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Fullerene said: What a great word "if". I suspect Farage will offer a pact "if" the Tories surrender to everything he wants. Just because both parties are obnoxious does not mean that they actually like each other. After all, in a lots of cases, they are chasing the same voters. 46 minutes ago, doulikefish said: The tories are now the "brexit" party they dont need him It could be that the potential threat of the Brexit Party standing candidates will influence the Tories manifesto position on Brexit. Too weak and Farage would be encouraged/compelled to offer an alternative; too strident and the Tories risk siphoning votes to the LibDems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 He also spent Monday and Tuesday morning having a complete meltdown about the prospect of a election, calling the SNP and Lib Dems Boris little helpers, before Corbyn humiliated him by also backing it, so I'm guessing he doesn't fancy his chances much.Well he’s pretty much right there. Corbyn would never have backed the election if he wasn’t boxed into it by the SNP and Lib Dems - who then ultimately abstained on the final vote because it was a whole three days later than they wanted. Both traded keeping Boris Johnson in a box for the next couple of years for a probable hard Brexit, potentially No Deal, and 10-15 more MPs. I can almost get it from the SNP with an indyref the name of the game, but I’m utterly bewildered by the Lib Dems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Well he’s pretty much right there. Corbyn would never have backed the election if he wasn’t boxed into it by the SNP and Lib Dems - who then ultimately abstained on the final vote because it was a whole three days later than they wanted. Both traded keeping Boris Johnson in a box for the next couple of years for a probable hard Brexit, potentially No Deal, and 10-15 more MPs. I can almost get it from the SNP with an indyref the name of the game, but I’m utterly bewildered by the Lib Dems. ...Unless their internal polling indicates a sizeable soft Tory vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Johnson wanted an election, the opposition parties were daft to give him one. Not sure whether the Salmon trial played any part in the SNP thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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