Fide Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mathematics said: The absolute nick of this. ^^^ What, the Arnold Clark advert banner? Edited November 1, 2019 by Fide 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Observer Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Exiledjag said: My understanding of football might not be as sophisticated as yours but I do know that when an attacker is ahead of a defender and is running through on goal then that represents a goal scoring opportunity. I also understand that if the defender makes a sliding tackle from behind the attacker (who has a goal scoring opportunity) and doesn't get the ball then he is in serious danger of a red card. Finally, if the defender is the last man (which Bruce was) and commits any sort of foul which prevents a goal scoring opportunity then its a red card. I think the above shows a reasonable understanding of football and this situation. My immediate reaction on seeing the incident was that Bruce did take out the Motherwell player and as you have agreed, close or not, he didn't get the ball so only conclusion is - a red card. Bruce's body language and lack of protest from himself and team mates suggests he knew he was in trouble. I rest my case. Goodnight and hope to speak again soon. Good morning. Semantics. None of that changes the “no attempt to play the ball” comment bollocks you first came out with, despite many believing Bruce had nicked the ball, so close was he to making a perfect last ditch tackle. I agree it’s a red but your initial summary was nonsense. The appeal should succeed based on the officials incompetence in not stopping the play for an offside therefore making the challenge nil and void. But that’s not going to happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Offside? Straws are well and truly being clutched 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, boozyBJ said: Offside? Straws are well and truly being clutched This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I thought being in line with the defenders made you onside. Clearly my mistake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... I would hope that won't form the basis of our appeal, because it's completely irrelevant. You can't overturn an offside decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... Is it even possible to appeal like that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, C4mmy31 said: This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... One straight from the "Lionel Hutz Appeals Handbook". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... Th3 n1ck 0f th1s. [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) "Your honour, the court may well have seen footage of my client attacking a fellow train passenger with a baseball bat, pummelling him to within an inch of his life. However, this court has no choice but to acquit him, on the grounds that the alleged "victim" did not actually have a valid ticket for that service." Edited November 1, 2019 by craigkillie 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, C4mmy31 said: This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... I hope they use that very screenshot as it doesn't show him on or offside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: "Your honour, the court may well have seen footage of my client attacking a fellow train passenger with a baseball bat, pummelling him to within an inch of his life. However, this court has no choice to acquit him, on the grounds that the alleged "victim" did not actually have a valid ticket for that service." 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 If Bruce slide tackled someone like that walking down the street or in a shop he'd get arrested even if he got the ball IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 hours ago, C4mmy31 said: This will form the basis of Killie's appeal, With Long being offside, making Bruce's tackle null & void if successful...... Even if they decide to go down this already well ridiculed route I hope they use a bigger picture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Having watched sportscene it’s quite clearly a red card. Why is it still being debated? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Having watched sportscene it’s quite clearly a red card. Why is it still being debated? To be fair - I think the only debate is whether you can appeal a last man red card based on a suspected foul throw in the 3rd minute? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I assume Kilmarnock have now dropped the idea of appealing the red card. Even i f they were to claim Bruce got a touch, it would only be rescinded if they can show an obvious mistake was made. Motherwell stopped appealing red cards where we couldn't show a clear error on the referee's part but knew he had made the wrong decision. It had become a waste of time and money and also a distraction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Archie McSquackle said: I assume Kilmarnock have now dropped the idea of appealing the red card. Even i f they were to claim Bruce got a touch, it would only be rescinded if they can show an obvious mistake was made. Motherwell stopped appealing red cards where we couldn't show a clear error on the referee's part but knew he had made the wrong decision. It had become a waste of time and money and also a distraction. Thursday 31 October 2019 Fast Track Claim | Alex Bruce, Kilmarnock FC Player: Alex Bruce, Kilmarnock FC Match: Motherwell FC v Kilmarnock FC Date: Wednesday 30 October 2019 Competition: SPFL Premiership Offence: A4 - Denying the opposing team or an opponent a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity as defined by Law 12 Claim: Wrongful Dismissal Fast Track Tribunal Hearing: Friday 1 November 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 55 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Having watched sportscene it’s quite clearly a red card. Why is it still being debated? Get new eyes simpleton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: If Bruce slide tackled someone like that walking down the street or in a shop he'd get arrested even if he got the ball IMO. Give perpetrators of assault footballers' wages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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