HibeeJibee Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Minor footnote in the annals of Scottish football history on Saturday, when the first inter conference matches in senior league football (as far as I can tell) are played. From now until late February most of the First Division program consists of these matches, although there are some 'regular' games on derby days and to fit around groundshares. While results apply in the respective conferences, it will nevertheless be interesting to see how clubs from each fare against the other, and perhaps post match reports in a single place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The first set of fixtures as they stand for Saturday. St Andrews v. Glenrothes and Leith v. Preston stand out to me. Burntisland Shipyard v. Stirling University (EoS) Dunipace v. Arniston Rangers Haddington Athletic v. Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Kinnoull v. Easthouses Lily MW Lothian Thistle HV v. Coldstream Ormiston v. Dalkeith Thistle Peebles Rovers v. Edinburgh United St Andrews United v. Glenrothes Heriot-Watt University v. Tweedmouth Rangers Leith Athletic v. Preston Athletic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Current schedule: Saturday 26th October A v B Burntisland Shipyard v Stirling University EOS 2:30pm Dunipace v Arniston Rangers 2:30pm Haddington Athletic v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 2:30pm Heriot-Watt University v Tweedmouth Rangers 3pm Kinnoull v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm Leith Athletic v Preston Athletic 3pm Lothian Thistle HV v Coldstream 2:30pm Ormiston v Dalkeith Thistle 2:30pm Peebles Rovers v Edinburgh United 2:30pm St Andrews United v Glenrothes 2:30pm Saturday 2nd November B v A Arniston Rangers v Craigroyston 2pm Coldstream v Ormiston 2pm Dalkeith Thistle v Dunipace 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Burntisland Shipyard 2:30pm Edinburgh United v Haddington Athletic 2pm Glenrothes v Leith Athletic 2pm Hawick RAU v Heriot-Watt University 2:30pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v St Andrews United 2pm Preston Athletic v Kinnoull 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v Oakley United 2:30pm Tweedmouth Rangers v Lothian Thistle HV 2pm Tynecastle v Peebles Rovers 2:30pm Saturday 9th November A v B Haddington Athletic v Tynecastle 2pm Saturday 23rd November A v B Burntisland Shipyard v Preston Athletic 2pm Craigroyston v Dalkeith Thistle 2pm Dunipace v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm Haddington Athletic v Stirling University EOS 2pm Heriot-Watt University v Tynecastle 3pm Kinnoull v Coldstream 2pm Leith Athletic v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 3pm Lothian Thistle HV v Glenrothes 2:30pm Oakley United v Edinburgh United 2pm Ormiston v Tweedmouth Rangers 2pm Peebles Rovers v Arniston Rangers 2pm St Andrews United v Hawick RAU 2pm Saturday 30th November B v A Arniston Rangers v Haddington Athletic 2pm Coldstream v Burntisland Shipyard 2pm Dalkeith Thistle v St Andrews United 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Craigroyston 2:30pm Edinburgh United v Heriot-Watt University 2pm Glenrothes v Ormiston 2pm Hawick RAU v Leith Athletic 2:30pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Dunipace 2pm Preston Athletic v Oakley United 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v Lothian Thistle HV 2:30pm Saturday 7th December B v A Arniston Rangers v Leith Athletic 1:30pm Coldstream v Haddington Athletic 1:30pm Dalkeith Thistle v Lothian Thistle HV 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Heriot-Watt University 2:30pm Edinburgh United v Ormiston 1:30pm Glenrothes v Craigroyston 1:30pm Hawick RAU v Burntisland Shipyard 2:30pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Peebles Rovers 1:30pm Preston Athletic v St Andrews United 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v Dunipace 2:30pm Tweedmouth Rangers v Oakley United 1:30pm Tynecastle v Kinnoull 2:30pm Saturday 14th December A v B Burntisland Shipyard v Tynecastle 1:30pm Craigroyston v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 1:30pm Dunipace v Glenrothes 2:30pm Haddington Athletic v Tweedmouth Rangers 1:30pm Heriot-Watt University v Preston Athletic 3pm Kinnoull v Hawick RAU 1:30pm Leith Athletic v Dalkeith Thistle 3pm Lothian Thistle HV v Edinburgh United 2:30pm Oakley United v Coldstream 1:30pm Ormiston v Stirling University EOS 1:30pm Peebles Rovers v Easthouses Lily 1:30pm St Andrews United v Arniston Rangers 1:30pm Saturday 28th December A v B Craigroyston v Tynecastle 1:30pm Haddington Athletic v Preston Athletic 1:30pm Peebles Rovers v Coldstream 1:30pm (B v A) Stirling University EOS v Kinnoull 2:30pm Saturday 4th January (mix) Glenrothes v Burntisland Shipyard 2pm Heriot-Watt University v Stirling University EOS 3pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Oakley United 2pm Ormiston v Preston Athletic 2pm Peebles Rovers v Hawick RAU 2pm Tynecastle v Lothian Thistle HV 2:30pm Saturday 11th January (mix) Burntisland Shipyard v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 2pm Leith Athletic v Tynecastle 3pm Oakley United v Glenrothes 2pm Preston Athletic v Dunipace 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v St Andrews United 2:30pm Tweedmouth Rangers v Peebles Rovers 2pm Saturday 18th January A v B Craigroyston v Stirling University EOS 2pm Dunipace v Hawick RAU 2:30pm (B v A) Easthouses Lily v Ormiston 2:30pm (B v A) Edinburgh United v Burntisland Shipyard 2pm Heriot-Watt University v Dalkeith Thistle 3pm (B v A) Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Lothian Thistle HV 2pm Tweedmouth Rangers v Kinnoull 2pm Tynecastle v Oakley United 2:30pm Saturday 25th January A v B (B v A) Arniston Rangers v Heriot-Watt University 2pm Craigroyston v Tweedmouth Rangers 2pm Kinnoull v Edinburgh United 2pm Lothian Thistle HV v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm Oakley United v Hawick RAU 2pm Ormiston v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 2pm Saturday 1st February B v A Arniston Rangers v Burntisland Shipyard 2:30pm Coldstream v Heriot-Watt University 2:30pm Dalkeith Thistle v Oakley United 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Leith Athletic 2:30pm Edinburgh United v Craigroyston 2:30pm Glenrothes v Haddington Athletic 2:30pm Hawick RAU v Ormiston 2:30pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Kinnoull 2:30pm Preston Athletic v Lothian Thistle HV 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v Peebles Rovers 2:30pm Tweedmouth Rangers v Dunipace 2:30pm Tynecastle v St Andrews United 2:30pm Saturday 8th February A v B Burntisland Shipyard v Tweedmouth Rangers 2:30pm Craigroyston v Preston Athletic 2:30pm Dunipace v Edinburgh United 2:30pm Haddington Athletic v Dalkeith Thistle 2:30pm Heriot-Watt University v Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. 3pm Kinnoull v Arniston Rangers 2:30pm Leith Athletic v Stirling University EOS 3pm Lothian Thistle HV v Hawick RAU 2:30pm Oakley United v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm Ormiston v Tynecastle 2:30pm Peebles Rovers v Glenrothes 2:30pm St Andrews United v Coldstream 2:30pm Saturday 22nd February (mix) Burntisland Shipyard v Dalkeith Thistle 2:30pm Coldstream v Craigroyston 2:30pm Hawick RAU v Haddington Athletic 2:30pm Leith Athletic v Tweedmouth Rangers 3pm Lothian Thistle HV v Arniston Rangers 2:30pm Preston Athletic v Peebles Rovers 2:30pm St Andrews United v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm Tynecastle v Dunipace 2:30pm Saturday 29th February B v A Dalkeith Thistle v Kinnoull 2:30pm Tweedmouth Rangers v St Andrews United 2:30pm Saturday 21st March B v A Dalkeith Thistle v Peebles Rovers 11:15am Coldstream v Leith Athletic 2:30pm (A v B) St Andrews United v Edinburgh United 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Haddington Athletic 5pm Dates to be confirmed B v A Arniston Rangers v Ormiston (A v B) Dunipace v Coldstream Edinburgh United v Leith Athletic Glenrothes v Heriot-Watt University Hawick RAU v Craigroyston (A v B) Kinnoull v Glenrothes (A v B) Oakley United v Arniston Rangers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo'ness Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I hope you did a copy and paste from somewhere! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormi Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Saturday 30th November B v A Arniston Rangers v Haddington Athletic 2pm Coldstream v Burntisland Shipyard 2pm Dalkeith Thistle v St Andrews United 2:30pm Easthouses Lily v Craigroyston 2:30pm Edinburgh United v Heriot-Watt University 2pm Glenrothes v Ormiston 2pm Hawick RAU v Leith Athletic 2:30pm Inverkeithing Hillfield Sw. v Dunipace 2pm Preston Athletic v Oakley United 2:30pm Stirling University EOS v Lothian Thistle HV 2:30pm Anyone know why those two games have been postponed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Was wondering that as well. Think it's because Dalkeith & Haddington could be playing in Football Nation Qualifying Cup that day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, snowball said: Was wondering that as well. Think it's because Dalkeith & Haddington could be playing in Football Nation Qualifying Cup that day Aye yer right 30th Nov is FNQ Cup day. Still to be drawn. Superb bit of fixture planning by the EOSFA, I'm impressed by this Inter Conference though my understanding of it is it is on a par wi Scotlands Euro Qualification situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, newcastle broon said: Superb bit of fixture planning by the EOSFA, I'm impressed by this Inter Conference though my understanding of it is it is on a par wi Scotlands Euro Qualification situation. Simple NB: There are 2 conferences of 12. They play home-and-away for 22 games, and play each other 6 home/6 away for 12 games, giving an overall total of 34 games. This means everyone plays 17 home/17 away and 23 different opponents in total; and plays everyone in their own conference home-n-away, and an equal difficulty from the other conference home-or-away. Conference winners are promoted automatically. They play-off for the overall First Division title. Conference runners-up play-off for promotion. However if Premier Division would otherwise be 1 club short then both runners-up are promoted automatically. Represented visually (by Dunipace): However... if you want to feast on the technical detail... Edited October 22, 2019 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Simple NB: There are 2 conferences of 12. They play home-and-away for 22 games, and play each other 6 home/6 away for 12 games, giving an overall total of 34 games. This means everyone plays 17 home/17 away and 23 different opponents in total; and plays everyone in their own conference home-n-away, and an equal difficulty from the other conference home-or-away. Conference winners are promoted automatically. They play-off for the overall First Division title. Conference runners-up play-off for promotion. However if Premier Division would otherwise be 1 club short then both runners-up are promoted automatically. Represented visually (by Dunipace): However... if you want to feast on the technical detail... Same method that they use in major soccer league in america before play offs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Simple NB: There are 2 conferences of 12. They play home-and-away for 22 games, and play each other 6 home/6 away for 12 games, giving an overall total of 34 games. This means everyone plays 17 home/17 away and 23 different opponents in total; and plays everyone in their own conference home-n-away, and an equal difficulty from the other conference home-or-away. Conference winners are promoted automatically. They play-off for the overall First Division title. Conference runners-up play-off for promotion. However if Premier Division would otherwise be 1 club short then both runners-up are promoted automatically. Represented visually (by Dunipace): However... if you want to feast on the technical detail... I get a semi every time I see this, absolute genius! Pitty the East Juniors couldn’t have done something similar with their half-baked Superdooper League Edited October 22, 2019 by Spyro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastyMan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Spyro said: I get a semi every time I see this, absolute genius! Pitty the East Juniors couldn’t have done something similar with their half-baked Superdooper League Got to agree with this. I don't have a team involved in this but it is a creative, interesting, and sensible solution for this season. I'll be looking out for results. Good work by all those involved 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Burntisland Shipyard 9-2 Stirling University EOS Dunipace 7-0 Arniston Rangers Haddington Athletic 1-2 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Heriot-Watt University 5-3 Tweedmouth Rangers Kinnoull 3-0 Easthouses Lily Leith Athletic 2-1 Preston Athletic Lothian Thistle HV 5-0 Coldstream Ormiston 0-4 Dalkeith Thistle Peebles Rovers 0-6 Edinburgh United St Andrews United 8-1 Glenrothes No real surprises but margin of Burntisland, Dunipace, LTHV and St Andrews wins raise my eyebrows; big Edinburgh Utd score too. Leith prevail v Preston; Inverkeithing at Haddington. So 'notionally': Conference A 7-3 Conference B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Obviously with Conference A being at home today I expected them to come out on top but like you HJ it's the margins of victory that surprise. Inverkeithing's win at Haddington was maybe the result of the day in the conferences and I can't wait for our trip there next week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Most of the results went to the clubs with a higher position. As noted it was just scorelines that were more severe in certain games. The only positional upset going into the game was St Andrews v. Glenrothes. St Andrews were 7th in Conference A and Glenrothes were 4th in Conference B. A8 Burntisland Shipyard 9-2 B8 Stirling University EOS A3 Dunipace 7-0 B12 Arniston Rangers A4 Haddington Athletic 1-2 B2 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts A2 Heriot-Watt University 5-3 B11 Tweedmouth Rangers A5 Kinnoull 3-0 B10 Easthouses Lily A1 Leith Athletic 2-1 B3 Preston Athletic A6 Lothian Thistle HV 5-0 B7 Coldstream A10 Ormiston 0-4 B6 Dalkeith Thistle A11 Peebles Rovers 0-6 B5 Edinburgh United A7 St Andrews United 8-1 B4 Glenrothes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormi Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I have to say 4-0 to Dalkeith flatters them. Ormiston certainly didn’t deserve to win, but conceding 2 goals in the last few minutes was frustrating. They’ve certainly not played to their potential yet, apart from vs Peebles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Amazing game today as Saints should have been two or three up before they scored. Some of the Glens defending was abysmal with their goalie dropping a corner into the net but given their league position this was a tremendous result today. As I said earlier it should be a cracker at Ballast Bank next week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I can't remember who it was but someone asked in the run up to the season if I would keep a table of the Inter-Conference play. I suppose to help illustrate if their was a stronger conference overall. I didn't fancy doing it as keeping track of everything seemed too time consuming. However, due to the way that NonLeagueMatters has had to arrange their Conference tables it's made things easier as I can just source the stats from there once they've been updated. https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/divisions/257/ https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/divisions/258/ So the first Inter(toto) Conference Cup table looks like 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 19:13, HibeeJibee said: So 'notionally': Conference A 7-3 Conference B Chance for Conference B to 'strike back' tomorrow with all 12 sides at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Conference A always seemed stronger. Time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 HT Glenrothes 1 Leith 1 Glens dominated the first half hour and should have had more than one goal to show for their dominance. Leith have come back into it since then although it took 30 seconds of dodgy goalkeeping to bring about the equaliser. All to play for in the second half. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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