Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, DA Baracus said: They would, just as would happen in the future, because a trans person doesn't just decide to 'pull on a dress and a wig' one day. You might not be bigoted but you sure are using phrasing and arguments that suggest otherwise. For the nth time, we are not talking about trans people invading anywhere or doing anything. Trans people have been using appropriate facilities for many years without incident. I'm not sure why I have to repeat it but I am discussing the issue of men being able to access places that were verboten and would now be open to abuse if self-ID became a thing. I will punch in the face any arsehole that dares to call me a bigot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Baxter Parp said: For the nth time, we are not talking about trans people invading anywhere or doing anything. Trans people have been using appropriate facilities for many years without incident. I'm not sure why I have to repeat it but I am discussing the issue of men being able to access places that were verboten and would now be open to abuse if self-ID became a thing. I will punch in the face any arsehole that dares to call me a bigot. Pipe down bigot. Anyway, folk might try and abuse it, but for the nth time, folk can do so now. It really would be no different. Folk would still question a guy who just 'pulls on a dress and a wig' to go in to a woman's toilet to rape or molest females. Quite why they'd do that when they could just walk in without dressing up is a mystery. It's a very silly argument indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Pipe down bigot. Anyway, folk might try and abuse it, but for the nth time, folk can do so now. It really would be no different. Folk would still question a guy who just 'pulls on a dress and a wig' to go in to a woman's toilet to rape or molest females. Quite why they'd do that when they could just walk in without dressing up is a mystery. It's a very silly argument indeed. Bollocks. If every man can declare themselves to be a woman then it's obviously open to abuse. How can you deny it? Edited October 25, 2019 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Baxter Parp said: Bollocks. If every man can declare themselves to be a women then it's obviously open to abuse. How can you deny it? No more so than it is now. We're going round in circles here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, DA Baracus said: No more so than it is now. We're going round in circles here. No, you're in denial. Self-ID isn't a common thing yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Because it's already how it works in Ireland, Malta, Norway, Portugal, Argentina and Belgium and there has been no epidemic of sex crimes in any of these countries. Please do provide links showing that there has been no knock on effect in any of those countries. Incidentally, I would be happy if that was the case but feminist groups have been saying for some years now that it's definitely an issue. Edited October 25, 2019 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans007 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: For the nth time, we are not talking about trans people invading anywhere or doing anything. Trans people have been using appropriate facilities for many years without incident. I'm not sure why I have to repeat it but I am discussing the issue of men being able to access places that were verboten and would now be open to abuse if self-ID became a thing. I will punch in the face any arsehole that dares to call me a bigot. You are a bigot and your backward views are holding this country back. Fingers crossed for a cold winter and we'll finally be rid of horrible bigots like you and get the yes vote the rest of us deserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Trans007 said: You are a bigot and your backward views are holding this country back. Fingers crossed for a cold winter and we'll finally be rid of horrible bigots like you and get the yes vote the rest of us deserve. Thanks for creating your account so you could wish me dead for saying " Trans people have been using appropriate facilities for many years without incident. " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, MixuFixit said: *gestures vaguely at lack of news stories about it* There must be some kind of study if you're confident it hasn't been an issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans007 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: Thanks for creating your account so you could wish me dead for saying " Trans people have been using appropriate facilities for many years without incident. " I created my account to engage with a bigoted coward who threatened physical violence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: There must be some kind of study if you're confident it hasn't been an issue. No credible studies on aliens mating with squirrels either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Trans007 said: I created my account to engage with a bigoted coward who threatened physical violence. What did I say that was bigoted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: No credible studies on aliens mating with squirrels either. So you can't say for sure that it doesn't happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, MixuFixit said: Hello Funding Council as you know, there hasn't been a big uptick in men pretending to be trans people doing crimes in our country. I'd like money from you to publish a paper on it with statistically nonsignificant results. How do you know it's statistically insignificant? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, MixuFixit said: It doesn't happen How do you know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans007 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: What did I say that was bigoted? I'll tell you what I'll call you a bigot to your face and see what you do it about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, MixuFixit said: Because that's why there are no academic papers on it. It's not a thing that happens and so it doesn't generate interesting science so it doesn't get funding to publish anything. If you know that it's statistically insignificant then someone must have done a study to establish that fact. Otherwise it's not a fact, it's a hunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Trans007 said: I'll tell you what I'll call you a bigot to your face and see what you do it about it. Tell you what you can call me a bigot when you explain what I said that was bigoted. Ok? You get a free pass, all you have to do is say what it was that was bigoted. Easy peasy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans007 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: Tell you what you can call me a bigot when you explain what I said that was bigoted. Ok? You get a free pass, all you have to do is say what it was that was bigoted. Easy peasy. Coward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Self ID isn't close to universal yet and the problem isn't with trans folk at all. Other than that you have a clear and precise grasp of the issue. No it,s not just about trans folk, but it might as well be when your argument is about anybody being able to blag their way into women only spaces by abusing GRA. The net result is the same. It's genuine, innocent trans people who are going to be discriminated against and vilified through association, so in reality, it might as well all be about trans folk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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