invergowrie arab Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Who are the political actors behind this and why would they want Craig Murray silenced (for a wee bit)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Hearing that Craig Murray has been renditioned and is now in solitary confinement in a maximum security facility in an unknown location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: You're outed yourself as an utter creep ages ago. Spare us your crocodile tears about women. If utter creep means I stick up for women then I'm an utter creep, I'll sleep well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Hearing that Craig Murray has been renditioned and is now in solitary confinement in a maximum security facility in an unknown location. You get put in jail just for saying you are Scottish these days 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 OK, indulge me then. When you strip out the hyperbole, you come down to the following facts. Which ones do you think are incorrect? 1) Did James Doleman tweet a complainer's name? 2) Did Dani Garvelli make it easy to identify at least one of the complainers by referencing a meeting that the complainant attended with others? 3) Did a complainer give a harrowing account of an attempted rape? 4) Did numerous other witnesses state on oath that the complainer above was not in the building at the time she claimed this attempted rape happened? 5) Was this evidence corroborated by all available written records? Which fact do you dispute and why?I couldn't care less tbh. As I said, if you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, batter in. I'm an utter creepI don't think confirmation was necessary tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Hearing that Craig Murray has been renditioned and is now in solitary confinement in a maximum security facility in an unknown location. Did he promptly escape into the Los Angeles underground? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: I couldn't care less tbh. As I said, if you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, batter in. What conspiracy rabbit hole? I'm reporting 5 publicly available pieces of information from a criminal trial. The difference between my post and Pep's is that I'm only quoting these facts without further elaboration. Why do you belive that I have not summarised this freely available evidence truthfully? Get off the fence or STFU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: I couldn't care less tbh. As I said, if you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, batter in. I don't think confirmation was necessary tbh. I'm not supporting people perjuring themselves to get someone jailed. I'm not supporting folk that think you're a women from day one even if you've no intention of having surgery. I'm not the one supporting folk who won't allow feminists in their party. Only weirdos think those positions are acceptable IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: You get put in jail out of the SNP just for saying you are Scottish a feminist these days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 What conspiracy rabbit hole? I'm reporting 5 publicly available pieces of information from a criminal trial. The difference between my post and Pep's is that I'm only quoting these facts without further elaboration. Why do you belive that I have not summarised this freely available evidence truthfully? Get off the fence or STFU. Don't think I need your permission to post here tbqh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Heavy criticism of the decision from notorious cranks....checks notes....Noam Chomsky (the worst most quoted living academic) and John Pilger today. Wee bit of a giveaway when you're on the opposite side to these people you're on the wrong side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I see the toilet protectors are out again. Lads, your c**t creep party lost. Get over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 "Craig Murray has compiled a remarkable record of courage and integrity in exposing crimes of state and working to bring them to an end. He fully merits our deep respect and support for his achievements.” Chomsky's actual comments, as reported in the national, are perhaps a little more circumspect in terms of today's sentencing than some (not mad) people would have you believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Chomsky has famously never defended a crank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Chomsky has famously never defended a crank Issuing a correction on a previous post of mine. I am now hearing Chomsky has in fact defended a crank. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: "Craig Murray has compiled a remarkable record of courage and integrity in exposing crimes of state and working to bring them to an end. He fully merits our deep respect and support for his achievements.” Chomsky's actual comments, as reported in the national, are perhaps a little more circumspect in terms of today's sentencing than some (not mad) people would have you believe. As well as literally signing a letter condemning his 'persecution'. I'm perfectly comfortable siding with the John Pilger's and Noam Chomsky's of the world. Hope you're happy with Dani Garavelli and Mhairi Hunter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 9 hours ago, HalfCutNinja said: As well as literally signing a letter condemning his 'persecution'. I'm perfectly comfortable siding with the John Pilger's and Noam Chomsky's of the world. Hope you're happy with Dani Garavelli and Mhairi Hunter. Judging by how you fly about like a weathervane pep you'll be siding with someone else in 5 minutes so fair dos pal! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 12 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: Who are the political actors behind this and why would they want Craig Murray silenced (for a wee bit)? The conspiracy theory has it that this is being done to prevent him from giving evidence against the CIA in a trial in Spain in the next few weeks. Presumably Lady Dorrian is right in with the spooks. I dunno guys, if I wanted not to give The State the chance to create a pretext for locking me up I probably wouldn't publish a blog in which I say how much I think the accusers in a sexual assault case should be identified and then leave a deliberate and obvious trail of breadcrumbs so that they could be. But what do I know. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, GordonS said: The conspiracy theory has it that this is being done to prevent him from giving evidence against the CIA in a trial in Spain in the next few weeks. Presumably Lady Dorrian is right in with the spooks. I dunno guys, if I wanted not to give The State the chance to create a pretext for locking me up I probably wouldn't publish a blog in which I say how much I think the accusers in a sexual assault case should be identified and then leave a deliberate and obvious trail of breadcrumbs so that they could be. But what do I know. Craig Murray also put out a piece saying that the bigoted trans stance by Alba was part of the reason they failed to make an impact. The dozen disciples of Bath were all cracking up at him. Some accusing him of being got at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I only learned who he was halfway through the Sturgeon/Salmond war, I thought he came across alright, a little bit Richard Dawkins like that even if they're saying something correct they come across squeaky and a tad strange. I'd agree with previous posts that it was probably best to avoid going near that subject on your blog if you wanted to avoid potential trouble however I think the guy was sincere in his struggle for justice and it would have been nice if there was such concern for the women involved re Sturgeon and her camp revealing the names firstly to Salmond's team and then as mentioned the other incidents when people mentioned them. It's pretty apparant some people are just happy to see him go down because he is classed as an enemy by this point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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