Hawk89 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: I believe Ian Murray has just signed a new deal and whilst I’d welcome Peter Murphy, I’d be devastated if it didn’t work out. I think if Archibald doesn’t follow McCall to Thistle he’ll be our next manager. I’ve also got a feeling we could see the end of Cameron’s ownership sooner rather than later. Jim Kirkwood owner / manager? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If it's Coyle, he'll have saved Crawford's job for this season at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: If it's Coyle, he'll have saved Crawford's job for this season at least. Did the win over Partick not do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 We need to be realistic on managers past experience, when we signed McCall the majority of fans were up in arms going on about . Out the game for 5years , sacked in last 3 jobs,off field problems , too old school tactics and how he proved those thoughts wrong , let’s give who ever gets the job s chance and focus on their future and not the past , as someone said there is no one out there with a perfect CV 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad chad Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, Black and White Tragic said: Why not? The compensation for PT taking Ian McCall should be at least £100k. Dick Campbell would be a solid appointment whilst passing on a managerial headache. You think Thistle have given you £100k? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, bad chad said: You think Thistle have given you £100k? Ayr fans don't. He's a Dunfermline fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad chad Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, RedEd said: Ayr fans don't. He's a Dunfermline fan. Apologies to Ayr fans! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Pretty sure compensation will be a used snapfax and a matriculation card that lets us into the QMU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Why not? The compensation for PT taking Ian McCall should be at least £100k. Dick Campbell would be a solid appointment whilst passing on a managerial headache.If we've got a £100k for McCall I'd be amazed, more like £10k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I think McCall might recommend Archibald as his replacement. Ive seen this mentioned a few times elsewhere, why would he recommend any replacements and why should we even consider taking his advice? You've moved on Ian, thanks for the memories but you should no longer have an input into the running or future direction of "Plucky Wee Ayr". I'd ideally be looking at someone who's currently in a job and is hungry to progress, would have loved to seen us move for Jim Goodwin had he still been at Alloa, is proven to work on a smaller budget or is willing to move to us with a CV of managing in higher profile leagues, in England or Scotland. Any appointment's a gamble, who truly was overly excited when McCall got the job in the first place? Every manager will have an element of failure on their CV, its the nature of the game. For sure, the pressure must be on the club to get it right first time, or risk undoing years of progression and good work we've built up, that's the bit that worries me if Im being honest. Get a well worded advert out in the public arena and see who applies for it, we might be pleasantly surprised at the results. Its not often a team joint top of their league are in a position to seek a new manager, lets get thinking out of the box a bit, be brave, show some ambition and continue kicking on. A change doesnt always have to be a sideways or backwards step. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If we've got a £100k for McCall I'd be amazed, more like £10k.If we let our manager and assistant manager go for as little as 10K to an utterly desperate Partick Thistle it’s an utter shambles tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdyteejay Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 hours ago, RossBFaeDundee said: Can't pretend I know much about Ian McCall's situation, but to me this is mental, going from an Ayr side that is playing (not meant to be insulting) way above expectations to a dismal Partick side. I personally don't get it. Anyway, enough with that, better start the 'Jim McIntyre's available' patter... That’s a great shout for McIntyre. He really did a job on your lot. Sorry meant to say for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand 2 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Some of the free agents are fairly grim prospects for Ayr. I can see Neil McCann talking his way into contention... Given Ayr's full time status now, that'll pretty much rule out the likes of Petrie and Campbell (not sure if that was a serious shout anyway). Peter Murphy seems like a reasonable shout; has done well with Annan and obviously has links to the club from playing. Darren Young has been doing a fine job at East Fife and will likely become a front-runner for bigger jobs soon. Stevie Farrell has been great at Stranraer but this is probably a rung too high at this stage, could probably say the same for Murphy. Some left field shouts might be Paul Sheerin or Maurice Ross. Sheerin, like Murphy, also has playing links and did a good job at Arbroath before falling away. Probably has a fairly secure gig at Aberdeen so not sure if he's looking to be a main man again. Ross definitely does harbour ambition of being a manager; seems to have done a good job with Motherwell's youth team since getting the role last year. Not sure if he fancies himself for the main gig at Motherwell, if there's any substance to Hearts interest in Robinson (which does just seem to be paper talk). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, BukyOHare said: I'd ideally be looking at someone who's currently in a job and is hungry to progress, would have loved to seen us move for Jim Goodwin had he still been at Alloa, is proven to work on a smaller budget or is willing to move to us with a CV of managing in higher profile leagues, in England or Scotland. Fully agree with this. Last time we were looking for a manager we had a dismal squad and needed someone with McCall's experience to bail us out of a tough spot. This time we have a young, exciting squad that is very much on the up, and we should be looking for a manager who's on a similar trajectory - not one of the usual suspects making their way down the leagues. I've already posted on the main Ayr thread that I think Stewart Petrie would be an excellent fit, but I wouldn't turn my nose up at Darren Young (possibly recency bias admittedly with him looking good at the moment) or James McDonagh either. I don't think Peter Murphy has shown enough at Annan yet to justify being in contention for a job near the top of the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHonestman1910 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Actually Peter Murphy may be a good shout as an outsider, I've got to be honest I completely forgot about him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, THEHonestman1910 said: Actually Peter Murphy may be a good shout as an outsider, I've got to be honest I completely forgot about him. There's probably a really good reason for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: If we let our manager and assistant manager go for as little as 10K to an utterly desperate Partick Thistle it’s an utter shambles tbh. We may have had no say in the matter. Completely dependent on their contracts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 We may have had no say in the matter. Completely dependent on their contracts.I get that but allowing them to be on poor contracts is part of the problem. As mentioned previously, if McCall is as thankful to us for giving him a chance as he has claimed then surely he would be perfectly happy on a contract that would allow us a decent compensation package. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 As long as we don’t go back to the mark shanks type! I think we need an up and coming manager who has worked at this kind of level before 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: I get that but allowing them to be on poor contracts is part of the problem. As mentioned previously, if McCall is as thankful to us for giving him a chance as he has claimed then surely he would be perfectly happy on a contract that would allow us a decent compensation package. The club may have been happy to employ him on a rolling contract on the off chance that he was sacked, in which case it would have been cheaper to pay him off than if he was on a long-term contract. Edited September 23, 2019 by RedEd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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