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vote with your feet guys

much as I like to blame the SPFL/SFA for everything I suspect in most cases here its clubs being robbing b*****ds and they'll only take notice of one thing with regard to this

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2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Mentioned it on the Motherwell thread, but Hearts have started to only sell the high price tickets, and refuse to sell away fans cheap tickets.

In the same stand, Hearts fans can get seated for £21, yet a Motherwell fan sitting just a walkway further back has to pay £29, as they dont get any option. 

 

2 hours ago, Aim Here said:

That's against SPFL rules isn't it? Away fans can't be charged more for comparable tickets than home fans.

The one caveat is that Hearts and Aberdeen have particularly byzantine ticket pricing structures, so there may well be some matching part of the stadium where Hearts fans get tickets are the away fan prices.

The first 9 rows behind the goals at Tynecastle are the cheap seats. The rest are mid price

For Category A fixtures  the price difference is only £2 so you probably hadn't noticed.

So the Motherwell fan in row 12 of the Roseburn will be paying the same price as the Hearts fan in Row 12 at the other end that's why it's not in breach of SPFL rules

What supporters of the smaller clubs are complaining about is that Hearts no longer open the bottom section for clubs whose travelling support can easily fit into the top section which means that visitors no longer have the cheap option. 

How much of that is price gouging and how much is because it will make the stewarding and policing simpler (and hence cheaper) is unclear but if Motherwell and Hearts have revivals that see demand for seats approach supply the situation will probably change

 

 

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The bit I can't understand about Celtic is what sort of person is going to give up their afternoon. Trek all the way through to Glasgow and then out to the east  end to watch a football game then decide to save a measly £3 by going for a seat with a restricted view.

The other confusing thing is why a club dripping with money and disco lights have restricted views at all but that's probably for another thread

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2 hours ago, Ye Olde Hamiltonian said:

Coincidentally,pal of mine went to West Ham v Norwich instead which was £27...cheaper than Tynecastle was.

Away fans are charged a maximum of £30 in the Premiership, which is pretty fair really. Some sides will charge less. 

No way in hell any team should be charging more than £20 for a game in Scotland. 

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32 minutes ago, tam the bud said:

£25 for Saints fans at LIvingston last week   :thumbsdown

It's this kind of thing that strikes me as absolute madness.

I don't live in Scotland any more, so when I'm home I'm keen to get to as many games as I can. If Hearts have a free Saturday, I'll go to whatever I can.

In recent years that has almost always been lower league football. Usually League One or Two, simply because Premiership (and often Championship) football is now priced at such a level that pretty much anyone who isn't a committed fan of one of the clubs playing will simply dismiss the prospect of going to the game completely. The clubs have priced out the casual attender, and that seems insane to me.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a lower league day out. But it'd be nice if the Premiership games were an option too.

It wasn't always like this. I remember back in the 90s as a kid I'd often go to games with my dad as a neutral when Hearts had a free Saturday or we didn't fancy the Hearts game for whatever reason. Went to games all over the place and even though we weren't a particularly wealthy family, it was a reasonably affordable thing to do. I'd usually pay in with my paper round money.

Even early 21st century I remember going to SPL games as a neutral on free Saturdays with my brothers or mates and not fussing too much about the price. Fir Park, Rugby Park, Dens, Firhill, even Hibs a couple of times just to watch a game. Nowadays that's almost unimaginable. It's priced in such a way that you just wouldn't do that.

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5 hours ago, Demented Zebra said:

There should be a standard price across the board but hey hoo it's the SFA we are dealing with.  

It’s not and it never has been.  They have nothing to do with premiership ticket pricing.

Even for cup ties, the two clubs agree the price do they not..

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Its all related to the other (but related) debate about us fans are paying for the shitey TV deal and shitey sponsorship deal for the league.

We were amazed at ticket prices in Norway the other year when we played Molde - couldnt quite fathom why a ticket was so cheap - £10 for a Euro tie, exceptional value when you consider its about £16 a pint over there.............

How can they charge such low prices? Simple, the sponsors pay a decent rate and the fans dont get gouged. We are paying the price of fandans like Doncaster etc not getting the clubs a decent deal.

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4 hours ago, Gaz FFC said:

Also the 1st team to break the £20 threshold in the Championship.

 

Hearts and Hibs were mid 20s when in the championship. Didn’t go to Ibrox so couldn’t tell you about them.

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3 minutes ago, big al said:

Hearts and Hibs were mid 20s when in the championship. Didn’t go to Ibrox so couldn’t tell you about them.

£22 - a bargain when set against the £18 you charged us !!

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30 minutes ago, Green Day said:

£22 - a bargain when set against the £18 you charged us !!

Sure Hearts were dearer but may be wrong 

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35 minutes ago, Crawford Bridge said:

The real crooks are the likes of Morton who charge good money to enter their Junior/Lowland League standard away end and call it "atmospheric"

 

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Just wait ‘till the moaning managers get VAR implemented. Wonder who’ll be paying for that?

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Prices constantly on the up, got to a lot of games away last season with the novelty of it being our first season up but genuinely can't justify it anymore. Will go to the home games and maybe a few away games/cup games (£14 at Forfar was class) but for me most away games this season will be sat behind a laptop on hesgoal.com. Absolutely gouging fans these days, ourselves included but it's ineptitude knowing that people WILL pay it and clubs need to stay competitive. Vote with your feet and get it to f**k

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4 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

Prices constantly on the up, got to a lot of games away last season with the novelty of it being our first season up but genuinely can't justify it anymore. Will go to the home games and maybe a few away games/cup games (£14 at Forfar was class) but for me most away games this season will be sat behind a laptop on hesgoal.com. Absolutely gouging fans these days, ourselves included but it's ineptitude knowing that people WILL pay it and clubs need to stay competitive. Vote with your feet and get it to f**k

Unfortunatly one of the downfalls for our succsess in getting to the Premier League has been a significant rise in addmisions to away games.One of the reasons why we have such a small but loyal band of supporters who attend these games.Football is an expensive hobby these days and its understandable why so many are so selective as to when and where to attend.Fact

 

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Should be a £20 cap on away ticket prices and an agreed percentage of the ground available for away fans.

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10 hours ago, Ye Olde Hamiltonian said:

I coined the phrase " Twenty's Plenty"  last season

I'm sure that was a scheme in the EPL a few years back. If I remember right it was backed by Virgin and away fans paid no more than £20. As has been said thought, the useless slabs at the SFA aren't selling our game to sponsors well enough for us to be able to put something like that in place. With the current money in the Scottish game (or lack of) most clubs can't afford to drop the gate prices.

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It's not only able bodied fans who are feeling the effects of price increases.

Most clubs have increased the prices for wheelchair users as well  which I personally don't have a problem with  as long as you get a decent view of the game.

However the view at some grounds (Hearts stuck behind a 6" barrier at eye level, at Celtic, stewards sitting right in front of you, at Kilmarnock, photographers insisting on blocking your view, at Accies waiting to see if they sell out the away stand before sitting you in the "gazebo" otherwise being stuck behind the goal ) i could go on but it is what it is so my son and I just don't bother going to most away games anymore. The recent price rises just put the tin lid on it for me.

It would actually be very interesting if someone kept a record of away supports this season because already I see a  reduction in away attendances at Fir Park (Old Firm excepted) compared to previous seasons. 

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When the prices started to sneak above the £20 mark, it then started to get beyond the value for money barrier. We are now talking about getting little to no change from £30 a some grounds. That is probably the breaking point for me.

You add in travel, food and beers and you’re getting to the thick end of £100 for an afternoon. You then add in your evening socialising and it’s becomes an expensive weekend.

£20 is the marker for me and it’s way beyond that now.
Pick and choose matches these days!

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