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8 hours ago, Matty-RCFC said:

Naive if you thought we were ever out of this, to be honest.

f**k off, you've absolutely no chance of going down so stop panicking.

We're comfortably the worst team in the league and have a manager who can't react to the situation. 8 open play goals in the league this season and he refuses to change anything about how we play.

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Dundee probably had the best night out the bottom four last night. Gained ground on County and Livi and avoided defeat in their last game of the season at the ground of their main rivals. 

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Of course it is unlikely that Dundee and St Johnstone won't make up the bottom two after 38 games, but stranger things have happened.

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The weekends fixtures. Tough games for County and Livi, so if Dundee could beat St Mirren for the second time this season they will get themselves within striking distance of the pack above. St Johnstone have already won at Pittodrie this season, they really need something up there to keep the dream of 10th (11th?) alive. 

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I keep saying this, anyone thinking St Johnstone and Dundee are gone already and that no other club will be involved is naive. Even us, despite being 10 points above the relegation slot and looking upwards rather than down, have gone on a poor run. A good win against United and the shambolic Aberdeen certainly helped a lot and that's the thing, a couple of wins can really pull you out of trouble, and come the split (which is still miles away) all the games are six pointers.

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I think, at best, i can see us winning 5 games in the remaining games. But that's proper optimism at full flow stuff. Realistically it'll be about 3.

Either way anyone who gets over 30pts will avoid 12th.

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36 minutes ago, Lex said:

Dundee probably had the best night out the bottom four last night. Gained ground on County and Livi and avoided defeat in their last game of the season at the ground of their main rivals. 

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Of course it is unlikely that Dundee and St Johnstone won't make up the bottom two after 38 games, but stranger things have happened.

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The weekends fixtures. Tough games for County and Livi, so if Dundee could beat St Mirren for the second time this season they will get themselves within striking distance of the pack above. St Johnstone have already won at Pittodrie this season, they really need something up there to keep the dream of 10th (11th?) alive. 

Funny how we see things so differently, i absolutely would've taken us only losing 1-0 against Sevco at Ibrox,  and the ideal result for us was a draw with St Johnstone v Dundee, as we were always likely to lose against Sevco, so minimal damage has been done with them and St Johnstone only gaining 1 point, and our GD only taking a 1 goal hit.

 

I also fancy our chances against Hibs on Saturday, esp without Boyle in their team.

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1 hour ago, sergie's no1 fan said:

What the bookies have it.

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I don't gamble at all but must admit I was surprise to see Hibs having longer odds than either Motherwell or Aberdeen.

For all three its wasted money (subject to something unforeseen like getting docked points) but I thought at the very least they'd all be on the same odds? Is this more a bookies attempt to get more punters to bet on a long shot?

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1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Funny how we see things so differently, i absolutely would've taken us only losing 1-0 against Sevco at Ibrox,  and the ideal result for us was a draw with St Johnstone v Dundee, as we were always likely to lose against Sevco, so minimal damage has been done with them and St Johnstone only gaining 1 point, and our GD only taking a 1 goal hit.

 

I also fancy our chances against Hibs on Saturday, esp without Boyle in their team.

Another interesting one - we've now played Sevco three times so wont face them again (before the split ;) ). We do however have to play St Johnstone twice; hopefully they wont find their scoring boots in the meantime.

It could, however, become critical if we lose any players in the current window; I imagine there are people looking at Stryjek - we have the Russian boy coming in but he's pretty much an unknown entity at the moment.

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12 minutes ago, Durnford said:

I don't gamble at all but must admit I was surprise to see Hibs having longer odds than either Motherwell or Aberdeen.

For all three its wasted money (subject to something unforeseen like getting docked points) but I thought at the very least they'd all be on the same odds? Is this more a bookies attempt to get more punters to bet on a long shot?

It's the bookies though, they don't work on the facts they work on the bets placed so they don't lose money.

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3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

I think, at best, i can see us winning 5 games in the remaining games. But that's proper optimism at full flow stuff. Realistically it'll be about 3.

Either way anyone who gets over 30pts will avoid 12th.

It's a bit of a cliche, but when you sign loads of players in January it can take a fair bit of time for them to gel and actually start making a difference. As so many teams have shown, two wins in a row can absolutely change your season.

The two times St Mirren have survived after signing a load of players in January, it still took us to mid-fed- start of March to really start winning games.

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2 minutes ago, GAD said:

It's a bit of a cliche, but when you sign loads of players in January it can take a fair bit of time for them to gel and actually start making a difference. As so many teams have shown, two wins in a row can absolutely change your season.

The two times St Mirren have survived after signing a load of players in January, it still took us to mid-fed- start of March to really start winning games.

We've literally only signed defenders this month, they won't be turning our season around.

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4 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

I think, at best, i can see us winning 5 games in the remaining games. But that's proper optimism at full flow stuff. Realistically it'll be about 3.

Either way anyone who gets over 30pts will avoid 12th.

3 wins is still massively optimistic. Just now, unless we see major changes to the setup and/or personnel, I'm struggling to see us scoring 3 goals between now and the end of the season, let alone winning 3 games. ☹️  

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The season Kearney took over we had 12 points at Christmas and it stayed that way till the middle of February. Dundee were 6 points ahead of us at that point and we ended up with 32 points. It is possible especially with the split. Helped somewhat that Dundee, Hamilton and us were utterly woeful that season - there was a 10 point gap between 9th and 10th.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, flyingscot said:

The season Kearney took over we had 12 points at Christmas and it stayed that way till the middle of February. Dundee were 6 points ahead of us at that point and we ended up with 32 points. It is possible especially with the split. Helped somewhat that Dundee, Hamilton and us were utterly woeful that season - there was a 10 point gap between 9th and 10th.

 

 

On this day, that season, you were a point off 11th and 2 points off 10th.

We're 2 off 11th and 6 off 10th and have failed to beat both sides in our last meetings.

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37 minutes ago, flyingscot said:

The season Kearney took over we had 12 points at Christmas and it stayed that way till the middle of February. Dundee were 6 points ahead of us at that point and we ended up with 32 points. It is possible especially with the split. Helped somewhat that Dundee, Hamilton and us were utterly woeful that season - there was a 10 point gap between 9th and 10th.

I feel like that is largely underrated as an escape, beyond Saints fans, of course. I still cant quite make sense of how we stopped up.

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I feel like that is largely underrated as an escape, beyond Saints fans, of course. I still cant quite make sense of how we stopped up.


We were saved by one of the worst top flight sides of all time. Dundee finished 12th on 21 points that year.
Ross County are currently in 10th place with 21 points and have 16 games left to play. ICT finished bottom in 2017 with 34 points. Even the terrible Accies side who finished bottom last year got 30 points.
Not even a team as bad as we were could have finished on less than 21 points.
That and a penalty shoot out win against a hopeless United side in the playoff is what did it. We got very lucky.
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