AlansHotBath Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 Stirling Uni 4 - 0 Vale Cumbernauld Colts 0 - 0 Gretna 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) First point on board for Gretna. Who do we get a point of next? Kelty ..... Edited August 28, 2019 by sureiknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaswift Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 it just gets worse for the Vale . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlansHotBath Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) And Gala 0 - 3 Shire Edited August 28, 2019 by AlansHotBath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Interesting to look at the 'bottom 4'... Edinburgh Uni (3pts), Dalbeattie (3pts), Gretna (1pt) and Vale (0pts). Gretna's draw with Cumbernauld was the first point any of those sides have taken other than against each other. More startlingly: Dalbeattie have only scored 1 goal in 6 games; Vale have 2 in 6; Edinburgh Uni have 3 in 6; and Gretna have 3 in 5... Of those the Dalbeattie goal, one of Vale's goals, and all of Edinburgh Uni's goals were against each other: Vale (losing 5-1 at home to Gala) and Gretna (3-2 at Edusport + 9-1 at 'Shire) the others. These sides are struggling to make headway v rest of LL currently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Interesting to look at the 'bottom 4'... Edinburgh Uni (3pts), Dalbeattie (3pts), Gretna (1pt) and Vale (0pts). Gretna's draw with Cumbernauld was the first point any of those sides have taken other than against each other. More startlingly: Dalbeattie have only scored 1 goal in 6 games; Vale have 2 in 6; Edinburgh Uni have 3 in 6; and Gretna have 3 in 5... Of those the Dalbeattie goal, one of Vale's goals, and all of Edinburgh Uni's goals were against each other: Vale (losing 5-1 at home to Gala) and Gretna (3-2 at Edusport + 9-1 at 'Shire) the others. These sides are struggling to make headway v rest of LL currently. Vale,of course ye forget to mention are under ever increasing pressure for them lights. Obviously just an observation Edited August 29, 2019 by newcastle broon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Interesting to look at the 'bottom 4'... Edinburgh Uni (3pts), Dalbeattie (3pts), Gretna (1pt) and Vale (0pts). Gretna's draw with Cumbernauld was the first point any of those sides have taken other than against each other. More startlingly: Dalbeattie have only scored 1 goal in 6 games; Vale have 2 in 6; Edinburgh Uni have 3 in 6; and Gretna have 3 in 5... Of those the Dalbeattie goal, one of Vale's goals, and all of Edinburgh Uni's goals were against each other: Vale (losing 5-1 at home to Gala) and Gretna (3-2 at Edusport + 9-1 at 'Shire) the others. These sides are struggling to make headway v rest of LL currently. These four would struggle in the EOS Premier as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Interesting to look at the 'bottom 4'... Edinburgh Uni (3pts), Dalbeattie (3pts), Gretna (1pt) and Vale (0pts). Gretna's draw with Cumbernauld was the first point any of those sides have taken other than against each other. More startlingly: Dalbeattie have only scored 1 goal in 6 games; Vale have 2 in 6; Edinburgh Uni have 3 in 6; and Gretna have 3 in 5... Of those the Dalbeattie goal, one of Vale's goals, and all of Edinburgh Uni's goals were against each other: Vale (losing 5-1 at home to Gala) and Gretna (3-2 at Edusport + 9-1 at 'Shire) the others. These sides are struggling to make headway v rest of LL currently. And it'll take 4 years to empty all of them at this rate when you've got Linlithgow, Bo'Ness, Penicuik, Hill of Beath, Broxburn amongst others queuing up in the EoS. The protectionist 1 down needs to be increased. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, lowenan said: These four would struggle in the EOS Premier as well. Two of them don't have to worry about that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 That's true. I'm sure Gretna and Dalbeattie will do very well in the SOSFL, if they can keep decent squads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Marshmallo said: And it'll take 4 years to empty all of them at this rate when you've got Linlithgow, Bo'Ness, Penicuik, Hill of Beath, Broxburn amongst others queuing up in the EoS. The protectionist 1 down needs to be increased. If you make it 2 down then do you give the SOS an automatic promotion spot (probably lesser quality than the 2nd bottom team) or have them play off against the EOS 2nd place? 12 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Interesting to look at the 'bottom 4'... Edinburgh Uni (3pts), Dalbeattie (3pts), Gretna (1pt) and Vale (0pts). The same bottom four as last season... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, Ginaro said: If you make it 2 down then do you give the SOS an automatic promotion spot (probably lesser quality than the 2nd bottom team) or have them play off against the EOS 2nd place? If you're working within the restrictions of the current pyramid leagues (LL, EOS & SOS) I would say that can be a starting point. 1a) Two licensed champions = both promoted 1b) One licensed champion and one unlicensed champion. Licensed champion promoted, playoff between licensed runners up for 2nd spot. Only one licensed runner up automatically promoted. 1c) Only one licensed champion or runner up they get promoted. 2nd bottom in LL get a reprieve. If the SoS got an automatic promotion spot you'd end up with a WoS by default as a club akin to Kelty would move across. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Marshmallo said: And it'll take 4 years to empty all of them at this rate when you've got Linlithgow, Bo'Ness, Penicuik, Hill of Beath, Broxburn amongst others queuing up in the EoS. The protectionist 1 down needs to be increased. I'm sure they'll look at it once the SPFL give the LL/HFL play off winner an automatic place,how many times does it have to be explained before the penny drops wi some folk,obviously the SPFL have their protectionist too Edited August 29, 2019 by newcastle broon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: I'm sure they'll look at it once the SPFL give the LL/HFL play off winner an automatic place,how many times does it have to be explained before the penny drops wi some folk,obviously the SPFL have their protectionist too Why do the 2 need to happen simultaneously? The LL should be opening up more, as should the SPFL, but one can happen without the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Why do the 2 need to happen simultaneously? The LL should be opening up more, as should the SPFL, but one can happen without the other. You're the one who mentioned protectionist so you've practically answered yer own question why should the LL go 1st ? 2 up 2 doon is the way but dont think it happening anytime soon. Cheers for the red by the way,Primary School stuff 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: You're the one who mentioned protectionist so you've practically answered yer own question why should the LL go 1st ? 2 up 2 doon is the way but dont think it happening anytime soon. Cheers for the red by the way,Primary School stuff I’ve just given you a green Newky the forum big baby will be away bleating to the mods about me being an alias of yours next . Edited August 29, 2019 by Rab B Nesbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: You're the one who mentioned protectionist so you've practically answered yer own question why should the LL go 1st ? Where did I say either of those things? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Where did I say either of those things? 9 hours ago, Marshmallo said: The protectionist 1 down needs to be increased. 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: Why do the 2 need to happen simultaneously? The LL should be opening up more, as should the SPFL, but one can happen without the other. Yer asking the LL to open up but why should they go 1st 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: Yer asking the LL to open up but why should they go 1st Maybe if they go first it shows a willingness to change and puts more pressure on the league clubs to facilitate an alteration to the current format. Something needs to happen as right now the lack of movement up and down the pyramid isn't great. Carpe et diem and all that jazz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: Yer asking the LL to open up but why should they go 1st I haven't said that they should anywhere you brain donor -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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