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3 hours ago, Cyclizine said:

I'm not sure how much of a sweetener ICT will be able to offer to the HFL clubs in order for them to accept this. Most of them were against it last time. Perhaps Caley could try the NCL instead...?

I'm hoping the NCL refuse the Nairn County colts application.

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4 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I'm hoping the NCL refuse the Nairn County colts application.

NCL has a fairly recent history of reserve sides: Clach, Fort William. ICT have even played their reserves back in the 90s off the top of my head.

It's a tricky one as I don't like the idea of reserve teams playing in the pyramid, but at the kind of level where it's mostly recreational football for the benefit of players, I think that's okay. It's where the NCL wants to fit in with this. If they're serious about being tier 6, then they need to say no.

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Just now, Cyclizine said:

NCL has a fairly recent history of reserve sides: Clach, Fort William. ICT have even played their reserves back in the 90s off the top of my head.

It's a tricky one as I don't like the idea of reserve teams playing in the pyramid, but at the kind of level where it's mostly recreational football for the benefit of players, I think that's okay. It's where the NCL wants to fit in with this. If they're serious about being tier 6, then they need to say no.

Thought they just played in the Cups (could well be wrong), which I've no objection to. Just think that leagues should be first teams only. I can understand it when they're struggling to get enough players for winter football though, maybe not so much with the new candidates this year.

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Just now, welshbairn said:

Thought they just played in the Cups (could well be wrong), which I've no objection to. Just think that leagues should be first teams only. I can understand it when they're struggling to get enough players for winter football though, maybe not so much with the new candidates this year.

No, they played in the actual league. Looking back, seems ICT reserves won it in 94/95 and 97/98 (with County reserves being champions in 96/97).

The whole league was originally the Highland Reserve League, which is one of the reasons it has this quasi-senior status.

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2 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

No, they played in the actual league. Looking back, seems ICT reserves won it in 94/95 and 97/98 (with County reserves being champions in 96/97).

The whole league was originally the Highland Reserve League, which is one of the reasons it has this quasi-senior status.

That explains a lot!

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15 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

NCL has a fairly recent history of reserve sides: Clach, Fort William. ICT have even played their reserves back in the 90s off the top of my head.

It's a tricky one as I don't like the idea of reserve teams playing in the pyramid, but at the kind of level where it's mostly recreational football for the benefit of players, I think that's okay. It's where the NCL wants to fit in with this. If they're serious about being tier 6, then they need to say no.

To think it wasn't that long ago  in the grand scheme of things (2009-2011), that Fort William were able to run their very own reserve side.

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I'm sure Clach had a reserve side in the league in the last decade: Wikipedia says 11/12, although I thought they had more than one season. Fort William apparently entered in 09/10, from the same source. When you look back at the League champions, the majority of them were reserve teams, mainly of the Inverness clubs until to 70s

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Just now, Cyclizine said:

I'm sure Clach had a reserve side in the league in the last decade: Wikipedia says 11/12, although I thought they had more than one season. Fort William apparently entered in 09/10, from the same source. When you look back at the League champions, the majority of them were reserve teams, mainly of the Inverness clubs until to 70s

It was basically set up as a reserve/second XI league to the Highland League in the first place. Hence the quasi-Senior status its had all these years.

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Just now, FairWeatherFan said:

It was basically set up as a reserve/second XI league to the Highland League in the first place. Hence the quasi-Senior status its had all these years.

Yeah, exactly. @NiallFH is the man for the background!

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Just now, Cyclizine said:

Yeah, exactly. @NiallFH is the man for the background!

And to answer Clachnacuddin's latest reserve run was three seasons from 2011-2014.

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40 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

I'm sure Clach had a reserve side in the league in the last decade: Wikipedia says 11/12, although I thought they had more than one season. Fort William apparently entered in 09/10, from the same source. When you look back at the League champions, the majority of them were reserve teams, mainly of the Inverness clubs until to 70s

Clach were in it for three season (2011-14, finished 7th, 5th and 4th) and Fort William for two (2009-11, finished 10th and 8th-10 teams in the league in both seasons).  ICT were in it until 1999 and Ross County 1998 but not sure when they joined.   Clach and Fort William were also in it until the mid-90s (Clach won the league in 1992).

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8 hours ago, traffordab said:

Banks o'dee are a very well run junior club always enjoyed my trips to spain park . Can't blame them for not wanting to get properly involved in anything to do with the 'pyramid' up here. 

Jog on...........

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BOD should be playing in the HL or at least advocating the NJ to join Tier 6.

SFA should grow a pair and tell them they're suspending Member Benefits - Scottish Cup Place and SFA Payments unless they do so.

 

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Meanwhile in the real world while the Sevco humiliation road tour takes up all the media oxygen..

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On 07/05/2020 at 19:59, stanley said:

Clach were in it for three season (2011-14, finished 7th, 5th and 4th) and Fort William for two (2009-11, finished 10th and 8th-10 teams in the league in both seasons).  ICT were in it until 1999 and Ross County 1998 but not sure when they joined.   Clach and Fort William were also in it until the mid-90s (Clach won the league in 1992).

The NCL was dominated for decades by HL reserve teams:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Caledonian_Football_Association

My understanding is that its at times tenuous senior status has been derived from it previously having been an HL reserve league.

 

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The absolute brass neck of the HL to lecture the SPFL about meaningfully embracing the spirit of the pyramid, when i) its own league champions were the ones who regularly wailed to the tabloid press about how terrible it would be to play at a higher level and ii) it has still conspicuously failed to reform its own closed shop either by linking with lower leagues in the region or breaking up its own division into two tiers with promotion and relegation.

 

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8 minutes ago, virginton said:

The absolute brass neck of the HL to lecture the SPFL about meaningfully embracing the spirit of the pyramid, when i) its own league champions were the ones who regularly wailed to the tabloid press about how terrible it would be to play at a higher level and ii) it has still conspicuously failed to reform its own closed shop either by linking with lower leagues in the region or breaking up its own division into two tiers with promotion and relegation.

 

It was a timely moment for Brora to change their philosophy and the HL and the NCL to show serious interest in making the pyramid happen at this level,along with movement in the Juniors down south if not up here. Unfortunately the lack of interest above is beyond their control. Why the f**k the HL would want to split into leagues of 8 or 9 is beyond me, as is the SPFL's desire to stick to 12,10,10,10.

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A: Because having your bottom five teams rack up over 600 goals conceded between them during a single league campaign is tinpot nonsense. And it also ensures that the HFL itself remains an inherently closed shop with no annual change within its own ranks.

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45 minutes ago, Jimmy Shaker said:

The seethe the Highland League inflicts upon people is great.

Clearly not half as much as the SPFL inflicts on the HL 😂

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