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16 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

 

The junior clubs that had the potential to step up to the Highland League have pretty much already done it. Outside of a couple of club in the Superleague, the rest are essentially amateur clubs in level and operation. I suspect many of them don't really feel the pyramid applies to them, but I doubt that many would kick up a fuss if a formal route into the Highland League opened up; I just don't think most would actively campaign for this to happen.  

Any pyramid in the North is always going to be shallower and broader than the south of the country. There are fewer clubs spread over a much larger geographical area. Pragmatically, I think the NCL, North Superleague and a Dundee/Angus Superleague becoming Tier 6 feeders is probably the best solution, I think it's unlikely there'll be automatic relegation from the HFL any time soon, but allowing access to licencing for these clubs allows them to aspire to that, should they wish.

Exactly this.

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39 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

I think it's unlikely there'll be automatic relegation from the HFL any time soon, but allowing access to licencing for these clubs allows them to aspire to that, should they wish.

I hope there will be, it would really sharpen up the bottom of the table, sometimes it seems as though they're just going through the motions after Christmas. Could have been a real battle if this season had completed. There would have to be some flexibility on ground upgrades though.

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44 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I hope there will be, it would really sharpen up the bottom of the table, sometimes it seems as though they're just going through the motions after Christmas. Could have been a real battle if this season had completed. There would have to be some flexibility on ground upgrades though.

No, I agree, an automatic relegation place would certainly spice things up. I think the problem will be losing clubs from the Highland League with no-one to replace them due to lack of licences, (except Banks o' Dee and Golspie of course). Until there's a few more licenced clubs in the north, I can't see the HFL wanting to relegate anyone: I'm sure they'll add members.

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1 hour ago, Cyclizine said:

No, I agree, an automatic relegation place would certainly spice things up. I think the problem will be losing clubs from the Highland League with no-one to replace them due to lack of licences, (except Banks o' Dee and Golspie of course). Until there's a few more licenced clubs in the north, I can't see the HFL wanting to relegate anyone: I'm sure they'll add members.

Broughty Athletic are the only club who would be near licensing, and then that's only if you got the Tayside League on board.

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46 minutes ago, ArabAuslander said:

Broughty Athletic are the only club who would be near licensing, and then that's only if you got the Tayside League on board.

Culter and Hermes wouldn't be too far off licensing. Culter have a decent facility with plenty of cover but no floodlights. Hermes have decent floodlights but would need to upgrade spectator facilities. However not sure if either would be keen to move up.

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Bridge of Don Thistle* have talked positively, if unrealistically, about the pyramid. They're now getting a new ground (actually in Bridge of Don) as part of a new housing development. Watch this space... Or not.

*aka Newburgh Thistle, aka Hillhead Juniors, aka Wilson's XI

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1 hour ago, ham1sh68 said:

Culter and Hermes wouldn't be too far off licensing. Culter have a decent facility with plenty of cover but no floodlights. Hermes have decent floodlights but would need to upgrade spectator facilities. However not sure if either would be keen to move up.

Might be a way of temporarily relaxing the rules for a season or two, like allowing ground share for evening kick offs and earlier starts on midwinter Saturdays. The spectator facilities could also be allowed a bit of time to upgrade, maybe with some SFA financial support. It would just need the HL blazers to cope with slightly reduced free hospitality for a short time. Think Fort William got away without floodlights for a few years when they joined, probably because they rarely play at home in the winter.

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7 hours ago, Cyclizine said:

Bridge of Don Thistle* have talked positively, if unrealistically, about the pyramid. They're now getting a new ground (actually in Bridge of Don) as part of a new housing development. Watch this space... Or not.

*aka Newburgh Thistle, aka Hillhead Juniors, aka Wilson's XI

Will they be calling it The Den

Because, you know that's where Foxes live.

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16 hours ago, ArabAuslander said:

Broughty Athletic are the only club who would be near licensing, and then that's only if you got the Tayside League on board.

Lochee United aren't too far either, main thing needed to be done is floodlights.

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9 hours ago, ArabAuslander said:

Will they be calling it The Den

Because, you know that's where Foxes live.

For fox sake...

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3 hours ago, Marten said:

Lochee United aren't too far either, main thing needed to be done is floodlights.

North End have lights, although I don't know what quality. Downfield and Violet would surely only be lights away from it too?

I always thought Lochee was one of the poorer facilities in the city.

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On 02/05/2020 at 10:27, tellyboy said:

North Region Junior Clubs have voted 19/13 in favour of a Null  & Void Season in line with the East Region Management decision. Wont be popular with all and you can see it from both sides of the argument                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

 

On 02/05/2020 at 12:16, welshbairn said:

Can't imagine Banks o Dee will be too pleased considering their title wasn't in doubt.

BoD are said to have appealed the decision.

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Banks o’ Dee ‘devastated’ over ‘non-sporting’ null-and-void end to Junior Superleague campaign
by Danny Law
 04/05/2020, 10:31 am

Banks o’ Dee president Brian Winton says his side are “devastated” after clubs in the North Region Junior Football Association voted to declare the 2019-20 season null and void.

The Spain Park side were 14 points clear at the top of the McBookie.com North Region Super League after a perfect record from 16 games.

But the 32 clubs in the North Region voted 19-13 in favour of declaring the season null and void rather than finishing the season by the standings in the leagues as of March 7, or on a points-per-game basis.

The decision is in contrast to the one taken in the West Region Premiership when Auchinleck Talbot were crowned champions on average points, despite sitting third.

Winton is disappointed his side did not receive the same recognition, despite being on the cusp of a fifth successive title.
He said: “I feel disappointed and disillusioned over the lack of governance, leadership and consistency. Null and void is a non-sporting outcome and a negative way to conclude a season which has been played in difficult circumstances due to the pandemic.

“The bit that is hard to take is the Scottish Championship, Leagues 1 and 2, the Highland League and the Lowland League have all crowned their league leaders as champions.

“In the West of Scotland Juniors, Auchinleck Talbot were named champions despite sitting third.

“We are the only club in Scotland, as far as I’m aware, with an average of three points per game as we have won all 16 games.

“I feel the null and void vote has penalised the potential league champions and teams in the relegation zone have been thrown a lifeline.


“I guess when you take a vote on something like this, too many teams don’t have a vested interest in the outcome. The management team and players are devastated.

“To put together a run of 16 wins from 16 games and be 14 points ahead is frustrating, especially when the Scottish Junior Football Association have allowed a team sitting third in the league to win the championship.

“Where is the governance, leadership and consistency?

“It is sad for junior football in this area to have a null and void decision. It is not sporting and the easy way out.”


 

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/dee-devastated-over-season-end/

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On 01/05/2020 at 07:25, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Keith Mason as manager of Nairn Saints, they will be a team worth watching. Might just go along and cheer them on when the footie is back.

All three siblings the twins Colin and Keith and their sister Karen were all leaders on the pitch, very competitive.

Keith now joins his sister (ICTWFC) in football management.

Colin who was captain at Inverness City maybe waiting for that bigger job.....Ibrox??

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43 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

Sounds like the other clubs just wanted to work it right round them, can't see any other logic.

Ellon United and Maud were at risk of demotion, maybe they had a few friends in the other clubs. Not sure how the demotion/promotion works.

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This is a right boot in the baws for BoD,they've had the dummy oot for a good few yrs because the HL picked Strathy Jags,Formartine and Turra over them for a place in the HL,after a badly put together bid to get in.

Now the north juniors have put the boot in.

They are licensed,if I was them I would apply for the HL asap.

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24 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:

This is a right boot in the baws for BoD,they've had the dummy oot for a good few yrs because the HL picked Strathy Jags,Formartine and Turra over them for a place in the HL,after a badly put together bid to get in.

Now the north juniors have put the boot in.

They are licensed,if I was them I would apply for the HL asap.

Don't know why they would still be in the huff from then, haven't heard anything from them.

Has anything been said on NorthFitba why the clubs have voted on nulling the season?

Shocking though, never seen the league go against an Aberdeen team before certainly not one of the big ones. Imagine if this had happened in the SPFL its would meltdown and craniums detonating all over the shop.

2 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Ellon United and Maud were at risk of demotion, maybe they had a few friends in the other clubs. Not sure how the demotion/promotion works.

North Aberdeenshire and Buchan mafia.

Sunnybank denied promotion to the Superleague.

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2 hours ago, Snafu said:

Don't know why they would still be in the huff from then, haven't heard anything from them.

Has anything been said on NorthFitba why the clubs have voted on nulling the season?

Shocking though, never seen the league go against an Aberdeen team before certainly not one of the big ones. Imagine if this had happened in the SPFL its would meltdown and craniums detonating all over the shop.

North Aberdeenshire and Buchan mafia.

Sunnybank denied promotion to the Superleague.

They took the huff at bring overlooked for an HL spot,their application was poor but they were the best team on the park at the time.

On Fitba North it's been reported that BoD are saying it's a non sporting decision,also they are asking where is the leadership and the common sense from the NRJFA as it was their title a country mile away!!

This could be the catalyst for a long overdue application to join the HL.

 

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2 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:

They took the huff at bring overlooked for an HL spot,their application was poor but they were the best team on the park at the time.

On Fitba North it's been reported that BoD are saying it's a non sporting decision,also they are asking where is the leadership and the common sense from the NRJFA as it was their title a country mile away!!

This could be the catalyst for a long overdue application to join the HL.

 

It took Formartine United taking the huff with the North Region over relegation to kick start the last Highland League applications.

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