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21 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

Can toilets be safely opened? Are players being tested? Is Ireland the same country as this?

And most peoiple go to football to socialise with others so the idea of having to stand apart from their pals is a non-starter - who enforces it and are the club, as they are charging cash, liable? 

Agree with your points, be interesting to see how the English pubs manage from today- can't see people standing apart to be honest - with no one to police things.Biggest worry for me is being reliant on testing which is unreliable, then things start up,when you thought it was safe.

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Dyce Juniors have become have become the latest North Junior to sign up to the Aberdeenshire & District FA. They've now got the option to compete in the Aberdeenshire Cup and Shield competitions, as well as the u20 league the ADFA run. Banks O'Dee and Aberdeen University are the other Junior clubs in a majority senior local FA.

EDIT: And they will be fielding a u20 side.

https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/dycejuniorsfc/news/we-have-joined-the-aberdeen--district-football-association-2546591.html

 

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16 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Pointed out on FN that Dyce need floodlights, since the Cup & Shield are midweek competitions. They must have plans in place ahead of the new season.

No planning permission from what I can see, and I do remember the guy from Dyce who is the NRJFA acting president on a podcast saying they couldn't have lights due to the airport (who knows though as he did seem a bit clueless).

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No planning permission from what I can see, and I do remember the guy from Dyce who is the NRJFA acting president on a podcast saying they couldn't have lights due to the airport (who knows though as he did seem a bit clueless).
Can't be the case as Renfrew's New Western Park to Glasgow Airport is about the same distance as Dyce Juniors ground to Aberdeen Airport & New Western Park has lights. If anything there may be some extra steps due to being on a flight path but nothing stopping the construction & use of lights.
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27 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
47 minutes ago, Ginaro said:
No planning permission from what I can see, and I do remember the guy from Dyce who is the NRJFA acting president on a podcast saying they couldn't have lights due to the airport (who knows though as he did seem a bit clueless).

Can't be the case as Renfrew's New Western Park to Glasgow Airport is about the same distance as Dyce Juniors ground to Aberdeen Airport & New Western Park has lights. If anything there may be some extra steps due to being on a flight path but nothing stopping the construction & use of lights.

I remember the podcast as well, which is why I found it noteworthy. Think it was only from a couple of months ago on Down the Divisions?

To dismiss the idea that the airport would prevent them examples of floodlit pitches at Dyce Academy and Bucksburn have been used. Not knowing the area well i'm not sure where in Bucksburn that would be, but Dyce Academy does look to be at similar distance to the Juniors ground.

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3 hours ago, Ginaro said:

No planning permission from what I can see, and I do remember the guy from Dyce who is the NRJFA acting president on a podcast saying they couldn't have lights due to the airport (who knows though as he did seem a bit clueless).

Didn't sound convincing to me, thought he was coming up with excuses for not joining the pyramid or spending any money. Clueless was the word, boundary at the Tay you say, what's all that about? We're a local club for local people.

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13 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Didn't sound convincing to me, thought he was coming up with excuses for not joining the pyramid or spending any money. Clueless was the word, boundary at the Tay you say, what's all that about? We're a local club for local people.

The one thing about that interview that did ring true was the diffculty North Juniors had gaining sponsors & funding. Namely those in Aberdeen.

You've got the cluster in Aberdeen without much to differentiate themselves. A bit like the old EoSFL problem with so many Edinburgh based clubs. Then a lot of the Juniors outwith Aberdeen are playing second fiddle to existing Highland League sides in small towns/villages.

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2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The one thing about that interview that did ring true was the diffculty North Juniors had gaining sponsors & funding. Namely those in Aberdeen.

You've got the cluster in Aberdeen without much to differentiate themselves. A bit like the old EoSFL problem with so many Edinburgh based clubs. Then a lot of the Juniors outwith Aberdeen are playing second fiddle to existing Highland League sides in small towns/villages.

The vast majority of Aberdonians will have never heard of any of the local junior sides. Banks o' Dee are the highest profile of the lot, unsurprisingly, but I doubt many will have heard of East End, Sunnybank,  Glentanar, etc unless they're involved or know someone who is.

As you say, outwith the City, many of the Shire teams live in the shadow of a Highland League club or are essentially village teams.

 

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You'd have thought it would give small local firms a relatively cheap way of getting their name out and about and a way to gain some local kudos. Like carpet shops, garage's, that kind of thing. You'd need a few obviously, not worth it for a big outlay. And an awful time to find anyone with spare at the moment of course.

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On 11/07/2020 at 14:46, Ginaro said:

No planning permission from what I can see, and I do remember the guy from Dyce who is the NRJFA acting president on a podcast saying they couldn't have lights due to the airport (who knows though as he did seem a bit clueless).

Seems Aberdeen airport have magically disappeared the flood lighting issue. Planned to be installed imminently to qualify for the ADFA. :lol:

Only watched the first few minutes, away for dinner....

https://www.facebook.com/1078179018921115/posts/4022123827859938/

P.S. Link nicked from FitbaNorth.

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45 minutes ago, The clean living guy said:

I must admit i don't know a great deal about the north juniors but would Ellon and Stonehaven not be able/intrested to support teams that could progress in the pyramid? 

Ellon United & Stonehaven tend to get a shout as people see them has clubs that can grow. On the pitch pedigree wise they tend to be Super league level. 

But they'd need floodlights, cover, and who knows what else to get up to standard. So if you have some spare cash lying around, I doubt they'd mind getting a donation :)

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Off the top of my head, Stonehaven were one of the roughly third of north clubs that voted against the pyramid in the survey a couple of years ago, whereas Ellon voted in favour.

I've said it several times before, but it's important to realise that those clubs able, willing and with potential to step up from the north juniors to the Highland League have essentially already done so. There is less depth in the North in trends of clubs and ability, simply reflective of population and geography. The majority of North Region clubs outwith a couple are essentially amateur in all but name.

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9 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

From Fitbanorth's Man in the know.

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Hopefully the North Juniors can get their finger out now. Although I imagine there might be more required of them since Highland and NCL are ran similiarly from a rules and regs standpoint.

I can see why they're alright going with just the NCL if there is a relegation element to the agreement. Most clubs in risk of relegation would expect to challenge for the NCL title if they were to drop down. It's good to see it getting done.

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16 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Hopefully the North Juniors can get their finger out now. Although I imagine there might be more required of them since Highland and NCL are ran similiarly from a rules and regs standpoint.

I can see why they're alright going with just the NCL if there is a relegation element to the agreement. Most clubs in risk of relegation would expect to challenge for the NCL title if they were to drop down. It's good to see it getting done.

I think the North Juniors are finally beginning to see where the wind's blowing, but I expect they'll take years to do anything about it. It will be good for the NCL to solidly establish themselves in tier 6 before they do, otherwise they could get swamped by the Aberdeenshire mob and potentially Tayside in the negotiations.

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Two questions about relegation.

1. So long as there are 17 clubs, is there any need for relegation? One team promoted would make a more sensible 18-team league.

2. If say Fort William or Wick were relegated, the NCL would suit them geographically. But what about Fraserburgh, Turriff etc? There's nowhere sensible for them to go until (or unless) the Juniors come on board.

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