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Complete drivel. Anybody who is in favour of a genuine pyramid should welcome the prospect of clubs like Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok running amok in the LL and should hope it happens ASAP. We would get there quicker if the SFA had more control over the process and the selfish self-interest agendas of the various leagues and clubs didn't get in the way.
Yes cause the SFA are so on the ball when it comes to the pyramid

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26 minutes ago, Jack Burton said:

Yes cause the SFA are so on the ball when it comes to the pyramid emoji23.png

...or they see it as most normal well-adjusted people with no self-interest agenda would see it. Who really cares if there are two east feeders and whether the boundary is at the Tay or at Montrose? Let's get the ball rolling. That can be fine-tuned later as was the case in England with the Isthmian and Southern Leagues. As things stand there could easily be deadlock for many years because of the various selfish idiots with blazers that are involved guarding their little fiefdoms and the SFA board lacks the powers needed to break the logjam.

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You can say well, there's no where a HFL Club can get relgaged to.

The thing remains at the moment up to two Lowland League teams can is just not right.

As it stands the HFL reaps the benefits of the Pyramid with no possible loss to it.

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I think most people with no agenda would think two feeders covering the same area is ridiculous.  Most people would think merging the two east feeders into one would be normal. 

Bizarre to suggest that most people would think two east feeders makes sense.

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9 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...or they see it as most normal well-adjusted people with no self-interest agenda would see it. Who really cares if there are two east feeders and whether the boundary is at the Tay or at Montrose? Let's get the ball rolling. That can be fine-tuned later as was the case in England with the Isthmian and Southern Leagues. As things stand there could easily be deadlock for many years because of the various selfish idiots with blazers that are involved guarding their little fiefdoms and the SFA board lacks the powers needed to break the logjam.

Or the SFA could state that there will only be one East feeder, the EOS. No more discussion.

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14 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...or they see it as most normal well-adjusted people with no self-interest agenda would see it. Who really cares if there are two east feeders and whether the boundary is at the Tay or at Montrose? Let's get the ball rolling. That can be fine-tuned later as was the case in England with the Isthmian and Southern Leagues. As things stand there could easily be deadlock for many years because of the various selfish idiots with blazers that are involved guarding their little fiefdoms and the SFA board lacks the powers needed to break the logjam.

The EoS cares, the clubs care, and in order to avoid a clusterfuck in future years we need to get it right from the start, that is the EoS's position.  It's not selfish, and they are far from being idiots.

The problem lies squarely with the SJFA and their refusal to deal with each Region seperately as each Region has different challenges and requires different solutions.  You know that, so why do you keep pushing this line that somehow the LL and EoS are the problem?  We know where the problem is, everyone does.

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5 hours ago, lowenan said:

Or the SFA could state that there will only be one East feeder, the EOS. No more discussion.

Bingo.

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4 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

The problem lies squarely with the SJFA and their refusal to deal with each Region seperately as each Region has different challenges and requires different solutions. 

If only that was true. As we know they split things into Highland and Lowland PWGs. The Highland League version of events was that the NRJFA said they weren't interested in the pyramid back in Oct or Nov and that was that. Then the SJFA carried on with the Lowland League PWG in Nov/Jan/March? onwards saying it was all in or nothing.

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If the SJFA/PWG carry on with the "all-in" (ie West and East) or nothing, they are always going to end up with nothing, hence why the West clubs who want to enter the Pyramid need to start making a little more noise.  Anyway, getting off topic of the thread.

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3 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

The EoS cares, the clubs care, ...

...and they have a self-interest agenda and are hence liable to make a mountain out of a molehill.

My point was that somebody impartial is needed to set the rules and policy on the pyramid in a rational way along the lines of what happens in England or Germany or we'll continue to see absurd decisions like the LL clubs refusing to add a second automatic relegation place even though the bottom half of the LL would clearly struggle to avoid relegation in the EoS. The problem isn't just Tom Johnston.

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31 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...and they have a self-interest agenda and are hence liable to make a mountain out of a molehill.

My point was that somebody impartial is needed to set the rules and policy on the pyramid in a rational way along the lines of what happens in England or Germany or we'll continue to see absurd decisions like the LL clubs refusing to add a second automatic relegation place even though the bottom half of the LL would clearly struggle to avoid relegation in the EoS. The problem isn't just Tom Johnston.

Ah another go at the LL if only it was ready to start all over again eh. 🙄

The question was answered by Jerry Maguire the 1st post after the thread started.

4 pages later.........

Can this thread no be closed now because its yet another pyramid thread wi the same shite being spouted from all sides  ? 

 

Edited by newcastle broon

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...and they have a self-interest agenda and are hence liable to make a mountain out of a molehill. My point was that somebody impartial is needed to set the rules and policy on the pyramid in a rational way along the lines of what happens in England or Germany or we'll continue to see absurd decisions like the LL clubs refusing to add a second automatic relegation place even though the bottom half of the LL would clearly struggle to avoid relegation in the EoS. The problem isn't just Tom Johnston.

 

So the EoS fully supporting West entry for this season was self interest? You're losing the plot now. 

 

There's a pyramid thread over in the EoS forum so best to continue there.

 

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The Lowland League should add another relegation spot but it's incredibly harsh to criticise them for only having one relegation spot currently.

Until the old juniors moved to the EoS, there were very few clubs licenced in the EoS and none of them were likely to ever challenge for promotion (Burntisland, Hawick etc).  It wasn't until earlier this year that suddenly you had a group of licensed teams who would be able to enhance the Lowland League and, even now, only 8/16 are licensed.

Yes, the number of relegation spots should be increased but until very very recently there were very few, if any, teams able to make the step up.

Edited by stanley

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