rockson Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Burnie_man said: So a relatively soft landing in the LL or HL. I don't think the Shire or Berwick have found it soft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 20 hours ago, GordonS said: 20 hours ago, rockson said: Really? A one-in-five chance of dropping out of the league? Those are very poor odds. That's what we have in the Championship and L1 right now. You're not dropping out of the league in those cases, merely a division within it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, rockson said: You're not dropping out of the league in those cases, merely a division within it. That's a distinction without a difference. What does matter, as someone else pointed out to me, is the loss of income from cups etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, rockson said: I don't think the Shire or Berwick have found it soft. It's softer than no parachute payment and no entry to the senior cups. More relegation and promotion spots is healthy for the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 One more relegation spot would be a very good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 ...but could turn even clubs like Spartans into relegation strugglers in as little as three seasons, so there is probably no huge enthusiasm for it among the current membership. It would be better if the SFA had more control over these sorts of issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...but could turn even clubs like Spartans into relegation strugglers in as little as three seasons, so there is probably no huge enthusiasm for it among the current membership. It would be better if the SFA had more control over these sorts of issues. if they had more control we would be shoehorning in the JUniors and looking at chaos of people jumping about trying to get promotion and causing chaos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Roll on the days that the likes of Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok are running amok in the LL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Roll on the days that the likes of Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok are running amok in the LL.You do increasingly come across as a bitter Joonyur man [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: You do increasingly come across as a bitter Joonyur man You come across as being more anti-junior than pro-pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 You come across as being more anti-junior than pro-pyramid.That's because Joonyur men see anything pro-Pyramid as being an attack on the grade.There are plenty pro-Pyramid people within the Junior game, are they also anti-Junior? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Complete drivel. Anybody who is in favour of a genuine pyramid should welcome the prospect of clubs like Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok running amok in the LL and should hope it happens ASAP. We would get there quicker if the SFA had more control over the process and the selfish self-interest agendas of the various leagues and clubs didn't get in the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 hours ago, GordonS said: That's a distinction without a difference. What does matter, as someone else pointed out to me, is the loss of income from cups etc. No, it's not. The difference is you're dropping out of one league structure into a completely separate one - with a much less high national profile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, rockson said: No, it's not. The difference is you're dropping out of one league structure into a completely separate one - with a much less high national profile. It only matter insofar as it translates into cash and the ability to attract players. The simple fact that the league is run by someone else isn't the issue. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, rockson said: No, it's not. The difference is you're dropping out of one league structure into a completely separate one - with a much less high national profile. You can change that profile by treating the league with a bit more respect and putting more promotion and relegation places in. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, gogsy said: Heres a link to the national broadcasters page for SPFL 2, its all right if you're a Cove Supporter I suppose. Nothing in the last three weeks apart from Barry Smiths sacking. SPFL1 page isn't much better third most recent story is East Fife manager promising he isn't going to park the bus against Rangers. But the results on a Saturday are on UK wide television. Every week during the season. The LL and HL don't have that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Complete drivel. Anybody who is in favour of a genuine pyramid should welcome the prospect of clubs like Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok running amok in the LL and should hope it happens ASAP. We would get there quicker if the SFA had more control over the process and the selfish self-interest agendas of the various leagues and clubs didn't get in the way.You haven't been paying attention over the last few years then if you don't think that being pro-Pyramid is seen by some as being anti-Junior. It's been the case from the very outset of the LL, 30 seconds in the Junior forum is all you need.The only self interested agendas come from one side in this, that isn't being anti-Junior, it's cold hard fact as you should be well aware, and the EoS refusing parity of the ERJFA should be welcomed by you, to stop the east turning into a clusterfuck. A bad plan is a bad plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Complete drivel. Anybody who is in favour of a genuine pyramid should welcome the prospect of clubs like Auchinleck Talbot and Pollok running amok in the LL and should hope it happens ASAP. We would get there quicker if the SFA had more control over the process and the selfish self-interest agendas of the various leagues and clubs didn't get in the way.Yes cause the SFA are so on the ball when it comes to the pyramid [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jack Burton said: Yes cause the SFA are so on the ball when it comes to the pyramid ...or they see it as most normal well-adjusted people with no self-interest agenda would see it. Who really cares if there are two east feeders and whether the boundary is at the Tay or at Montrose? Let's get the ball rolling. That can be fine-tuned later as was the case in England with the Isthmian and Southern Leagues. As things stand there could easily be deadlock for many years because of the various selfish idiots with blazers that are involved guarding their little fiefdoms and the SFA board lacks the powers needed to break the logjam. Edited August 24, 2019 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 You can say well, there's no where a HFL Club can get relgaged to. The thing remains at the moment up to two Lowland League teams can is just not right. As it stands the HFL reaps the benefits of the Pyramid with no possible loss to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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