Malky3 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I've had so many conversations with several who have assured me they knew what they were voting for, and now claim that No Deal will be absolutely fine. It's a kind of a cult thing, I guess, as they see leaving the EU as winning independence. No doubt Malky3 will say the desire for Scottish Independence is exactly the same thing, and something that has not been properly thought through. Sorry, just picking up on this, but yes - absolutely. As I've repeatedly said I voted to remain in the UK and to remain in the EU precisely because the arguments weren't successfully or credibly made for change. I'd say I was using my head rather than my heart. Sadly I think most Scottish Nationalists and Brexiteers aren't using their heads at all and they put their prejudices, xenophobia and their personal ideologies ahead of common logic and a challenging mind, and yes, in both cases, it has become cultish. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: And HS2 is what exactly ? Great news for Scotland - as I've covered elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 In anticipation of an early general elections n 200,000 have registered to vote in the last 36 hours. 50% of them are under 35. Given that most Gammons are already registered to vote that is a very positive sign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: And surrounded as I am in here NW Englandshire by ignorant Boris supporting c***s, who tell me on a daily basis that he is the only person capable of getting the country out of this horrible EU, I'll be so fucking happy when he does throw in the towel. He's lost his brother, lost his party, lost the country and totally lost the plot. Rest assured, the partying on the other side of the Pennines will be just as raucous. Note use of "will", not "would". It's happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: I'm an unashamed admirer of Corbyn, as many on here know, but I reckon yesterday was more a case of Johnson displaying such an eyewateringly awful caricature of political naivete that I could have looked like Churchill (c.1941) opposite him. Regardless, the Labour Leadership's long-game strategy is starting to pay off, and I am slightly optimistic. Corbyn has had a massive problem with scoring open goals from the very beginning though. So while what you're saying is true, it was still a big improvement from him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 03/09/2019 at 13:22, Granny Danger said: Poll done by pro-EU Tories shows interesting projection. Apparently lots of pro-EU Tories will vote for another party. Tories + DUP = 321 (less Speaker presumably) Others = 321 That's assuming the DUP gets 10 seats. Who's to say Naomi Long wouldn't win Belfast East (again)? Or Sinn Fein win Belfast North? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: You think because someone is a good radio broadcaster that they would be a good leader of a political party? That is one hell of a stretch. 9 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Well, arguably the worst ever presenter of Have I Got News for You became Prime Minister... "worst ever" does not equal "good" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: It's a good question. I'm presently living in a labour heartland area, but also a very pro leave EU area. Many have said they will vote conservative for the first time in their lives, because they think they will deliver on Brexit - any kind of a Brexit. I haven't got any direct evidence of anyone having changed their mind in this matter, but I'd like to think they must surely be having second thoughts. They would have needed to have had a first thought... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: "worst ever" does not equal "good" Really? If only I had known before! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Weel, ye ken noo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: In anticipation of an early general elections n 200,000 have registered to vote in the last 36 hours. 50% of them are under 35. Given that most Gammons are already registered to vote that is a very positive sign. From what I saw it was more than 50%. Apparently it was 118k of 199k were between 18 & 35. In addition if Boris decides he needs a 3rd stab at an early election, SNP and liberals are primed to amend it with a reduced voting age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Corbyn looks like he's doing so well because it's clear when you watch him that he despises Johnson on a personal level.He’s not the only one tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brother Blades said: He’s not the only one tbf. He finally has his finger on the pulse of the nation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 If they put back the GE bill on Monday the opposition should put an amendment in to say that a 2nd referendum must be held before a GE. Nothing the Government could do about it afaik and the seethe would be immense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 After the "i would rather be dead in a ditch " comments the rebel alliance must put off a general election until after the 31st of October 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, doulikefish said: After the "i would rather be dead in a ditch " comments the rebel alliance must put off a general election until after the 31st of October First time I’ve agreed with Johnson; I’d rather he was dead in a ditch too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: That's assuming the DUP gets 10 seats. Who's to say Naomi Long wouldn't win Belfast East (again)? Or Sinn Fein win Belfast North? Fair enough I don’t know enough about NI politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Fair enough I don’t know enough about NI politics. It might be a bit simplistic, but I'd have thought there will be some blowback for the DUP, given they have been mad for Brexit and NI as a whole voted to remain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: It might be a bit simplistic, but I'd have thought there will be some blowback for the DUP, given they have been mad for Brexit and NI as a whole voted to remain? The Alliance Party might pick up a few votes, but the Ulster Unionists are on the same Brexit page as the DUP, and there's no way DUP voters would switch to Sinn Fein. If they just stay at home it could be very significant though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: It might be a bit simplistic, but I'd have thought there will be some blowback for the DUP, given they have been mad for Brexit and NI as a whole voted to remain? They’ve said in the past they are supporting the view of Unionist voters not the broad electorate. I’m sure how the pro/anti Brexit position is in those terms. Maybe @Jacksgranda can enlighten me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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