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7 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Good support through from Killie. Just less of the songs about paedophiles and 'black b*****ds' please.

It's mental how folk try and justify this an "Ayrshire thing", like it makes sense that one small pocket of Scotland is still blissfully unaware of the racial connotations about 150 years after the rest of the world.

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BYE BYE KILLIE.

Hahahahahaahahha imagine losing to the worst full time team in Scotland.

Lewis Smith going to be a massive player for us this season.

Now time for progression in the cup. 

Setting off on the long journey to Kilmarnock tomorrow. 

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It's mental how folk try and justify this an "Ayrshire thing", like it makes sense that one small pocket of Scotland is still blissfully unaware of the racial connotations about 150 years after the rest of the world.

Think the song is more to do with Ayr united being mocket rather than the colour of their skin

 

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1 minute ago, Talbot supporter said:

Think the song is more to do with Ayr united being mocket rather than the colour of their skin

 

Yes but the rest of Scotland/UK knows that the term may be offensive to people who are black so have moved on from using the term. 

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Top 6. Easy.
Under the cosh for large parts of the game but I didn't feel that Killie threatened our goal too much. Obviously a very different side from the Clarke days (in terms of tactics/attitude anyway) but they'll be nowhere near danger this season. Some quality players in that squad.
Madden is some ref, eh? Some bizarre decisions throughout and I thought Oakley had a stonewall penalty denied. Happy to be proved wrong if footage shows otherwise however.
Good support through from Killie. Just less of the songs about paedophiles and 'black b*****ds' please.


Totally agree with the last sentence, our support need to let that song go, or change that word. The paedo thing is unacceptable as well, I honestly thought there was something dodgy about the CQN keeper but unless someone can tell me otherwise it just seemed to be #ladsbantz. Not funny or clever, some elements of our fanbase need to grow up quickly.

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Could be worse, could be Hamilton that will always take an average of 3 fans to a game



Get it right up you. Watch all the glory hunters disappear again now that you’re bottom 6 dross like us.

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Could be worse, could be Hamilton that will always take an average of 3 fans to a game


Fans don’t win you games, crowd w**k etc etc.

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54 minutes ago, killie_lad said:

Could be worse, could be Hamilton that will always take an average of 3 fans to a game

Yasssss.

Took longer than I expected, but there you go.

More of this kind of thing please.

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1 hour ago, killie_lad said:

Could be worse, could be Hamilton that will always take an average of 3 fans to a game

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Yasssss.
Took longer than I expected, but there you go.
More of this kind of thing please.
More supporters on here than in the actual stadium, something about Brogan & something about Rodger's massive fiveheid etc, etc. Sorry, my heart isn't in it today because of a spectacular hangover & Killie, who are the cause of my spectacular hangover

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7 hours ago, killie_lad said:

Could be worse, could be Hamilton that will always take an average of 3 fans to a game

 

6 hours ago, Moomintroll said:
6 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:
Yasssss.
Took longer than I expected, but there you go.
More of this kind of thing please.

More supporters on here than in the actual stadium, something about Brogan & something about Rodger's massive fiveheid etc, etc. Sorry, my heart isn't in it today because of a spectacular hangover & Killie, who are the cause of my spectacular hangover

 

4 hours ago, kennysmassiveego said:

Good to see the Hamilton fans celebrating beating a big team , can’t have happened too often 

AA is driving me to drink ....

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Lovely finish for the opener.  Hamilton looked decent in this game from the highlight pack.  Killie's finishing was pretty woeful though.  

That red was a good call, don't f**k with Canadian players 

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#TB4 ....you just don’t get it
And never will 
Good to see the Hamilton fans celebrating beating a big team , can’t have happened too often 
AA is driving me to drink ....
Is the question name two trophyless teams ? 
Kenny not taking this well I see.

Pleasing.

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On ‎11‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 01:25, YassinMoutaouakil said:

It's mental how folk try and justify this an "Ayrshire thing", like it makes sense that one small pocket of Scotland is still blissfully unaware of the racial connotations about 150 years after the rest of the world.

Context is key, the song has no racial connotations.

This is a subject that has been long debated on kickback, and I'm sort of caught between opinions on it.  It betrays a real lack of understanding of the whole subject of racism to reduce the matter down to a series of "banned phrases", but this is of course a prevailing outlook among those with little real interest in challenging racism at source and who instead eagerly look forward to the next scapegoat. 

The extent to which one is responsible for the kind of deliberate misinterpretation that you've just exemplified is a matter for debate though, and genuinely I'm not sure what side of the line I fall on.  A classic example is the ongoing "debate" over the use of the word "niggardly" in the U.S - (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_niggardly).  Now, if this song was to make a more sustained appearance in games where we were playing against a team (like last Sunday) with a number of black players then there would be an argument to state that this completely innocuous song was being used as a racial epithet - and if so, I'd be disgusted by it - but in my experience, this doesn't tend to happen.  Again, if Ayr had a substantially higher black population than Kilmarnock, or the national average, deplorable - but as far as I know, this is not the case.

Similarly, if the song was to be sung in a supposedly innocuous context by a support with a reputation for attacking black players with racist abuse - again, that's a different matter.  I don't, and perhaps this is complacency, think that Killie have that kind of reputation.  Aside from a single, and pretty unedifying incident where St Johnstone arrived with two black players, and both ended up getting booed by the home crowd en masse because of the actions of Nigel Hasselbaink - the only instance of a semi-racist nature was when a geriatric fellow supporter breathlessly told my Father that he'd "love it if we had a player like the wee darkie" in an admiring, but ultimately misguided review of Rod Wallace.

Would I, jokingly or otherwise, refer to someone in my daily life as a "black b*****d" or a "blacko" for being a bit clatty - well y'know probably not, but I honestly don't know if that's because I'm concerned about being misinterpreted, or simply because I don't tend to talk like that.  Again, I don't sing the song - but that's perhaps more because I'm the unusual breed of Killie fan who actually has a wee affection for our county cousins.

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