The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Because the natures of the separations are very different. Ethno-nationalism and religious separatism are pretty damned similar, both are endorsed by the current Scottish administration and both stink. As I said in my original post, both involve building fences between people. Literally, in the case of schools in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Ethno-nationalism and religious separatism are pretty damned similar, both are endorsed by the current Scottish administration and both stink. As I said in my original post, both involve building fences between people. Literally, in the case of schools in Scotland.Clown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Ethno-nationalism and religious separatism are pretty damned similar, both are endorsed by the current Scottish administration and both stink. As I said in my original post, both involve building fences between people. Literally, in the case of schools in Scotland. I'm no bigger a fan of separate schooling than you are. As you know though, such a set up was not inaugurated by the current administration. It's a situation they inherited, that belongs to a bygone era. Not unlike the Union in some respects. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Why do people even engage with this disgusting bigot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: I'm no bigger a fan of separate schooling than you are. As you know though, such a set up was not inaugurated by the current administration. It's a situation they inherited, that belongs to a bygone era. Not unlike the Union in some respects. Of course it is not of their creation but, 10 years in, you'd expect them to address it but they won't as it's part of their separatist mindset to keep it going. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Crawford Bridge said: Why do people even engage with this disgusting bigot? Yeah. Everyone who thinks weans should sit next to each other in school irrespective of their religion or none is a disgusting bigot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, The_Kincardine said: Of course it is not of their creation but, 10 years in, you'd expect them to address it but they won't as it's part of their separatist mindset to keep it going. They know it would be politically difficult to address, as have previous administrations, both pre and post devolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: They know it would be politically difficult to address, as have previous administrations, both pre and post devolution. Addressing the issue of the Union is politically difficult but they manage that no bother. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Addressing the issue of the Union is politically difficult but they manage that no bother. You're being silly now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Yeah. Everyone who thinks weans should sit next to each other in school irrespective of their religion or none is a disgusting bigot. f**k off simpleton. Don't quote me again you horrible bigot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Crawford Bridge said: f**k off simpleton. Don't quote me again you horrible bigot. Sure... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: You're being silly now. Why? This current Holyrood admin is committed to dealing with thorny issues. Why not address one that is a societal blight and a fiscal drain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tractor said: Very interested in the financials here. I'd be in favour of scrapping autonomous religious schools but I doubt there would be any fiscal advantage for decades, and rather costly in the short-to-medium term. The financials are worth mentioning in so far as it certainly costs more to have separate schooling. The most significant point is that Holyrood should not be in the business of building walls between weans and in promoting any religious ideology. The most obscene act of education policy in Scotland in recent years is the notion of shared campuses. That it is still being proposed is shameful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Why not address one that is a societal blight? Think that was addressed in 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Why? This current Holyrood admin is committed to dealing with thorny issues. Why not address one that is a societal blight and a fiscal drain? Surely unionist parties like the Tories, also oversee the provision of state funded religious schools in other parts of the UK? That's what makes this attempt you're making at drawing a parallel, decidedly flimsy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL12 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Tractor said: Said the poster who made a choice to support a club that discriminated against catholics. That is okay in their eyes though. They can have a discussion about anti racism( in support of it of course), then seemingly say “F***** b*****d” in the next thread - see FollowFollow or that Bears Den. To me sectarianism and racism are the same thing but you swap skin colour for religion. Edited January 2, 2020 by NFL12 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Surely unionist parties like the Tories, also oversee the provision of state funded religious schools in other parts of the UK? Astonished that you're using the two wrongs make a right argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Astonished that you're using the two wrongs make a right argument. No, I'm using the 'allowing separate schools is not in any way related to a stance on the question of the Union' argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Think that was addressed in 2012. 13 minutes ago, NFL12 said: That is okay in their eyes though. They can have a discussion about anti racism( in support of it of course), then seemingly say “F***** b*****d” in the next thread - see FollowFollow or that Bears Den. 12 minutes ago, Tractor said: Your club was delighted the offensive football act was scrapped so you could re-start the Ibrox songbook of religious hatred. Imagine thinking that me proponing the idea of secular schools had something to do with Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: No, I'm using the 'allowing separate schools is not in any way related to a stance on the question of the Union' argument. Then, as all of our discussions end up with angels on a pin head reductio ad absurdum, we're best parking it. Meanwhile your diddy pals continue to rage about Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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