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An arranged marriage between the Pope and the Queen would sort out all of these problems IMO.
Laudable, but I have spotted a couple of flaws in that particular plan m9.
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1 hour ago, bennett said:

Basically old firm fans are seen as being working class, so they're big bad bigots who don't know any better.

While the Thistle fans are seen as being more middle class and are merely enjoying a bit of witty banter.

 

I think that's an insult to the working class. 

Underclass dregs. 

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Not sure if you watched it, but that Patrick Kielty did a programme about the troubles a few months back. At the end he went to a school and spoke about it, the kids didn't seem to give a f**k what religion their mates were, didn't bother them whatsoever. 
It's a shame that in 2019 in Scotland, we are still miles off anything like that. 
 
 


I have not seen it, I will watch it now.
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1. You would be wrong, since this thread is specifically about Glasgow's two big, bigoted clubs.  The song you highlight is sung by a small club which is against the bigotry on both sides of the Irish history divide which dogs Scottish football (although personally I can understand why its language is causing bother and feel it shouldn't be sung, even though it's clearly a wind-up - it's too easy to take at face value and use as a false equivalence to the fans it attacks).

2. Here's a deal for you - why not start a new thread with all the examples of  "diddiness, scummery and outright bigotry from teams outside the two cheeks of the Old Filth." so this one can stay on topic.  See how much material there is compared to this thread.  It'll save you from the terrible dose of whataboutery you are suffering from which means you seem very reluctant to admit that Celtic fans ever do anything wrong - "it's all Swedish fans/police's fault/Partick Thistle are just as bad".

3. More importantly, how about your team's supporters stop singing a song directly glorifying murderous terrorists every week, and the other side stops their one which starts Hello? I'm sure Thistle fans would have far less reason to slag you both off if your "songbooks" weren't obsessed with Ireland and genuine, deep-rooted hatred? 

4. A section of Firhill is closed every week already (i.e. the Main Stand).  Not sure that closing a further section would make much difference...

Facebook for this pish.

 

Stop acting like a fucking auld woman.

 

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1 hour ago, bennett said:

Basically old firm fans are seen as being working class, so they're big bad bigots who don't know any better.

While the Thistle fans are seen as being more middle class and are merely enjoying a bit of witty banter.

 

Eh, no.

This would be the same thread that has repeatedly referenced the lawyers, doctors and other professional classes that apparently make up the majority of the OF fan base. Because the majority are normal and well-adjusted. Apparently. Can't have it both ways. 

Last time I was there Firhill was in Maryhill. It's fairly high on the multiple deprivation index.

But, and there's not really any other way of saying this, the most important factor here that a song whose entire purpose is to mock bigotry is, de facto, not bigoted. 

That said it should not be sung because the language is offensive. I don't mean that in a 'snowflake' way, but it's offensive in a way that has nothing to do with the football. 

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Not sure about the Pope and the Queen in an arranged marriage, but certainly, as a young woman, the Queen was a definite wid’.... not sure if that kind of ‘fcuk the Queen’ talk is offensive though. Hard to know where to draw the line in 2019. 😀

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Basically old firm fans are seen as being working class, so they're big bad bigots who don't know any better.
While the Thistle fans are seen as being more middle class and are merely enjoying a bit of witty banter.
 
Old Firm fans aren't working class. Have you ever seen one working?
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1. You would be wrong, since this thread is specifically about Glasgow's two big, bigoted clubs.  The song you highlight is sung by a small club which is against the bigotry on both sides of the Irish history divide which dogs Scottish football (although personally I can understand why its language is causing bother and feel it shouldn't be sung, even though it's clearly a wind-up - it's too easy to take at face value and use as a false equivalence to the fans it attacks).
2. Here's a deal for you - why not start a new thread with all the examples of  "diddiness, scummery and outright bigotry from teams outside the two cheeks of the Old Filth." so this one can stay on topic.  See how much material there is compared to this thread.  It'll save you from the terrible dose of whataboutery you are suffering from which means you seem very reluctant to admit that Celtic fans ever do anything wrong - "it's all Swedish fans/police's fault/Partick Thistle are just as bad".
3. More importantly, how about your team's supporters stop singing a song directly glorifying murderous terrorists every week, and the other side stops their one which starts Hello? I'm sure Thistle fans would have far less reason to slag you both off if your "songbooks" weren't obsessed with Ireland and genuine, deep-rooted hatred? 
4. A section of Firhill is closed every week already (i.e. the Main Stand).  Not sure that closing a further section would make much difference...
He didn't let me down with his response, an utter arsehole who needs banhammered from this Forum. Hopefully his mask will slip enough tomorrow.
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Magic.
You are the biggest hand wringing sweetie wife on this forum.
Nah, there are worse out there. You just keep living in your wee fantasy world where the IRA are acceptable & no one connected to Celtic can never do anything wrong just because Celtic.
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Just now, Moomintroll said:
6 minutes ago, Romeo said:
Magic.
You are the biggest hand wringing sweetie wife on this forum.

Nah, there are worse out there. You just keep living in your wee fantasy world where the IRA are acceptable & no one connected to Celtic can never do anything wrong just because Celtic.

Impeccable. Neil Lennon said so. Must be true if Lenny said it.

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1 minute ago, VictorOnopko said:

Absolutely seething!

 

1 minute ago, Moomintroll said:
7 minutes ago, Romeo said:
Magic.
You are the biggest hand wringing sweetie wife on this forum.

Nah, there are worse out there. You just keep living in your wee fantasy world where the IRA are acceptable & no one connected to Celtic can never do anything wrong just because Celtic.

 

Just now, Dons_1988 said:

 


And you are the biggest apologist hiding behind a cheeky chappy weegie persona.

 

Diddy circle jerk.

 

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