Scotland's Shame

[Dons_1988]

5 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

The police are there to make sure large crowds are safe, peaceful and protected.  If you go against the large crowds that are there and the simple reason they are there you are breaching it.   The protests where simply looking for trouble.  it's not that hard to understand. 

It would be a bit weird and a bit of a shit protest if someone shouted ‘not my king’ or ‘who elected him?’ In their own living room. 

[AdamAnt]

7 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

If you done it in Scotland right now then no, you wouldn't.  If you do it like a tosser when the head of the union is in a coffin 5 minutes away then you would have rightly have done so. 

What's your opinion of Celtic fans belting out IRA songs all night long this evening?  Scummy as f**k, eh? 

If you’re taking the side of the “dirty old man” and not the protestor calling the dirty old man a dirty old man then you’re on the wrong side. Keep licking those boots.  

4 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

 

If you don't like it f**k off to Ireland and protest.   What part of the Republic of Ireland is Glasgow in?  Take your bigotry elsewhere and away and support Shamrock Rovers and boo, protest and make any banners you want.   At least then you will stop embarrassing Scotland pretending to be Irish. 

Almost all your posts on the subject have been dreadful but this is just right out of the Nigel Farage playbook. What a piece of shit you are. 

[Aufc]

I’m not going to explain Celtic’s link to Ireland or their Irish supporters. I was suggesting looking away because you seemed irritated by people expressing their views. If you can ignore the feelings from the colonies you should do the same with Ireland or Celtic. They’ll never be British so will never conform in the ways you want them to. 
 
The UK is a democracy, you are allowed to have anti monarchy opinions without leaving the country. Also not sure protesting against the Royals is classed as bigotry but there are other examples. It’s great to have an open mind and try to see things from others viewpoints, not everyone has had the same upbringing as you and the monarchy might represent something to them that it doesn’t to you. But that’s why I just suggested focusing on your own mourning and not those who will inevitably protest because it’s not going away any time soon .

Whilst you are allowed to have anti monarchy views, why revel in the fact some old bird has died? If you don’t like them then just don’t bother saying anything. It’s the fact your fans feel the need to be seen to be edgy.

The banner celebrating some guy who stalked her bedroom is just completely bizarre behaviour and anyone who contributed to that should have their hard drives checked

[AdamAnt]

2 minutes ago, Aufc said:

Whilst you are allowed to have anti monarchy views, why revel in the fact some old bird has died? If you don’t like them then just don’t bother saying anything. It’s the fact your fans feel the need to be seen to be edgy.

The banner celebrating some guy who stalked her bedroom is just completely bizarre behaviour and anyone who contributed to that should have their hard drives checked

She’s not just some “old bird” though is she? How many other “old birds” do you know who have used £12 million of public money to help cover up people trafficking and sex offences? Or have been head of state when multiple atrocities have been committed? You’re being deliberately obtuse by claiming you don’t see a difference between her a old Isa down the road in her council house. 

[coprolite]

6 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

The police are there to make sure large crowds are safe, peaceful and protected.  If you go against the large crowds that are there and the simple reason they are there you are breaching it.   The protests where simply looking for trouble.  it's not that hard to understand. 

Advocating mob rule? Not a good look

[Benjamin_Nevis]

The Michael Fagan banner is utterly weird, however I have absolutely no problem with "f**k the crown". It's quite clearly a general anti-monarchy statement regardless of which inbred windsor is wearing it. Anyone using the "tHiS iS nOt tHe tImE fOr pRoTeStS" mewling pish would be better off ignoring such things and crying into their QE2nd tea towels. 

[rainbowrising]

Union Bears had a go at Napoli players during their warm down at the end of last nights match.

HRH (Deceased) would have been proud.  Unsurpassed, pyoor dignity so it is. 

[Leith Green]

If you take yourself back to the first page of the thread, you can see that nothing really changes with this pair.

In the last week, fans of both teams have merely conformed to type - singing songs about terrorists and both laughing at dead people who are not part of their gang.

Wierdos, the lot of them.

[DA Baracus]

1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:

It would be a bit weird and a bit of a shit protest if someone shouted ‘not my king’ or ‘who elected him?’ In their own living room. 

Didn't think anyone heard me.

[Aufc]

She’s not just some “old bird” though is she? How many other “old birds” do you know who have used £12 million of public money to help cover up people trafficking and sex offences? Or have been head of state when multiple atrocities have been committed? You’re being deliberately obtuse by claiming you don’t see a difference between her a old Isa down the road in her council house. 

I don’t disagree with your thoughts. However, I just don’t see the point in making up banners when she has just croaked it. I’m very much against the royal family but just I don’t feel the need to revel in her death

[kennie makevin]

6 hours ago, Buckets said:

There were more much more offensive anti monarchy protests and banners tonight than at the Celtic game. If it offends you look the other way because it won’t stop. By all means mourn your loss but don’t get offended when others don’t. The Empire isn’t all that popular outside the UK so your best just to do what you feel is right and not worry about others. Irish people have been singing about their patriots and independence for hundreds of years and will be doing the same in a hundred years from now. And the same is true in all countries that won their independence from Britain. So commemorate your Queen in your own way among your own likeminded people. But let other’s do what they see fit and try and have an open mind or just ignore it. Either way you’ll never change it.

If Celtic were an Irish football club then you may have a point, an albeit slim one. But just as the island of  Ireland is not British Celtic, however much you may wish it different, are not Irish. Their founders have Irish roots in the same way that Millwall's founders have Scottish roots. No one would seriously suggest Millwall are a Scottish club. And anyway how many forward thinking people in Ireland in the 21st Century still belt out the historical 'rebel songs' that Celtic fans revere ? Similar to Scots who still sing about William Wallace, Robert The Bruce & Bonnie Prince Charlie I'd wager. A small, quaint and slightly eccentric minority.  I'm proud to be Scottish and British and I want us to be a republic. I just don't think little bhoy banners spouting abuse helps that cause.

 

[Clown Job]

7 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

Sorry, cat got your tongue? 

The subject is Scotlands Shame. 

A group of fans representing a Scottish club abroad singing IRA songs is shameful and scummy.  Agreed? 

No

I don’t really care to be honest, I’m not Irish. 

But it’s obviously a good way to deflect from the argument for you 

[Clown Job]

6 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

If you don't like it f**k off to Ireland and protest. 

You need to have a word with yourself 

[bdu98196]

20 minutes ago, Aufc said:

 However, I just don’t see the point in making up banners

Hilarious isn't it. Groups that want to portray the image of being football hard men and ultras who stand up for the ideologies of their clubs (and religions it seems) all gathering around one guys house on an evening with some paper and paints to do 'Arts and crafts night'. Kind of like toddlers in nursery getting to do playtime and make some pretty pictures for mummy and daddy to be proud. All under the guise of in preparation of the upcoming big game.

Bit pathetic really when you think deeper into it.

[Jacksgranda]

4 pages of unmitigated shite

[kennie makevin]

6 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

4 pages of unmitigated shite

Courtesy of the hard of thinking Bigotry Brothers. Isn't life grand !

[Busta Nut]

Hoose Rice outing himself as a polis boot licker is what I got from the last few pages of shite.

[pozbaird]

It’s not the content of the Green Brigade banners that offends me. As a retired graphic designer, it’s that w**k typeface they keep using on their banners that offends me. Gie’s a good solid Gill Sans Bold or something. Scotland’s shame indeed.

[energyzone]

Both sets of fans are complete scumbags generally but it’s hard to criticize Sevco for their display, you wouldn’t expect anything else from them due to the whole GSTQ mantra they have.
But again overall they are both absolute scumbags.

You would think for such ardent Royalists they would know that the Queen was Elizabeth I of Scotland (and the UK) and not Elizabeth II.

[Buckets]

2 hours ago, kennie makevin said:

If Celtic were an Irish football club then you may have a point, an albeit slim one. But just as the island of  Ireland is not British Celtic, however much you may wish it different, are not Irish. Their founders have Irish roots in the same way that Millwall's founders have Scottish roots. No one would seriously suggest Millwall are a Scottish club. And anyway how many forward thinking people in Ireland in the 21st Century still belt out the historical 'rebel songs' that Celtic fans revere ? Similar to Scots who still sing about William Wallace, Robert The Bruce & Bonnie Prince Charlie I'd wager. A small, quaint and slightly eccentric minority.  I'm proud to be Scottish and British and I want us to be a republic. I just don't think little bhoy banners spouting abuse helps that cause.

 

I'm not getting into a debate about Celtic's identity or how people should feel and think.  There is foreign communities in every country that keep their ancestral links alive even if individuals only have parents of grandparents born there. There is plenty of examples in Scotland among immigrant communities. You may see it as them not integrating and assimilating but you can't police identity. 

I was actually reading about Welsh communities in Argentina the other day which I found very interesting. Now maybe these people are subject to ridicule in Argentina and get called plastic Welsh men and told they are Argentinian but its not a route I would go down. You can put what you want on a passport but you can't make people identify with what you want them to. Anyway the point is a lot of people identify with Irish and Scottish history rather than British whether we like it or not. 

As for rebels songs in Ireland? Walk into any pub playing live music on a Saturday night. Usually they're not singing Coldplay.