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Bit disappointing tbh. I thought it would be like a million Jackie Chans strutting their stuff.

Still... at least they're not sitting on their arses while their countries sovergnty is being trampled over. bQshDtu.png

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I'm in 2 minds about Hong Kong. Britain left it in a right state, a half arsed democracy rushed in just before the handover, and virtually no protection for workers. Great place to live for the wealthy, but with property rental prices double London's and a minimum wage of £3 odd an hour, I'm not sure how much worse off they'd be under direct Chinese control. It would be a bit annoying to be shipped off to a mainland jail and have your organs harvested for saying the wrong thing admittedly.

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Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.

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1 minute ago, ForzaDundee said:

Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.

 

By that same argument Yes voters should just "move out of Scotland", no?

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1 minute ago, Donathan said:

 

By that same argument Yes voters should just "move out of Scotland", no?

No.

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31 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said:

Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.

They'll still be Chinese if they move away m8.

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Not sure why the Red Army don't just move in. The bankers won't give a f**k, Beijing will make sure it's business as usual. The student/protesters are playing a dangerous game, not sure what their eventual goals are. Hope they aren't expecting the UK or US to step in, the UK is impotent and the US are far too busy trying to destroy China's economy to give a f**k.

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Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.

China undertook to make no change to how Hong Kong is governed for 50 years as a condition of the transfer m74

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1 hour ago, ForzaDundee said:

Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.

Phooey.

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Not sure why the Red Army don't just move in. The bankers won't give a f**k, Beijing will make sure it's business as usual. The student/protesters are playing a dangerous game, not sure what their eventual goals are. Hope they aren't expecting the UK or US to step in, the UK is impotent and the US are far too busy trying to destroy China's economy to give a f**k.

This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. .   Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. 

This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported. 

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5 minutes ago, beefybake said:

This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. .   Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. 

This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported. 

The Facebook generation didn't do much for the Arab Spring, especially in Egypt. Most of Tiananmen Square was broadcast live on the BBC and ITN. The people protesting in Hong Kong have to be more specific about what they're fighting for, stick to getting rid of the extradition changes then they might have a chance, make it a more general anti Beijing thing and they're fucked.

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6 minutes ago, beefybake said:

This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. .   Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. 

This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported.  

Nah the Egyptian military killed 800 people in a square a few years ago and covered it up no problem. Nearly no one knows what the Rabaa square massacre is.

It all depends on what western editors are told to publish.

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Just now, welshbairn said:

The Facebook generation didn't do much for the Arab Spring, especially in Egypt. Most of Tiananmen Square was broadcast live on the BBC and ITN.  

The Arab Spring isn't the subject of the discussion. 

The killings in Tiananmen Square were most certainly not broadcast on Western media.

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24 minutes ago, beefybake said:

The Arab Spring isn't the subject of the discussion. 

The killings in Tiananmen Square were most certainly not broadcast on Western media.

If it comes to it the same will happen in Hong Kong. What happened to the cameras when the tanks started running over tents in Tiananmen Square? Where are they in the Xinjiang camps? Where's Youtube when you need them, in Cairo or the Uyghur internment camps? The internet changes nothing.

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If it comes to it the same will happen in Hong Kong. What happened to the cameras when the tanks started running over tents in Tiananmen Square? Where are they in the Xinjiang camps? Where's Youtube when you need them, in Cairo or the Uyghur internment camps? The internet changes nothing.

Well that was depressing as all hell but probably correct.

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The sad thing is that when the internet provides film of people seemingly trying to save lives under bombardment in Syria, half the world say they're heroes, the other half say they're CIA paid actors. So as for as influencing and informing public opinion the internet might as well not have bothered.

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Have the Hong Kong lads tried tweeting about how brilliant the 2012 Olympics were? That seems to be making a real difference in the UK.

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3 hours ago, MixuFixit said:


China undertook to make no change to how Hong Kong is governed for 50 years as a condition of the transfer m74

Doesn't matter though does it. China are more powerful and will do what they want, just like we did to take Hong Kong in 1842. China has learnt this lesson the hard way over the past centuries.

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