NotThePars Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 it's quite funny that the press decided it was time for Boris to go and it's not taking. Ah well, I'm sure everyone will learn their lesson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The butterfly effect in full effect. If only Ed Miliband could have eaten a sandwich properly we wouldn’t be in this mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: The butterfly effect in full effect. If only Ed Miliband could have eaten a sandwich properly we wouldn’t be in this mess. When I think of if only's.....it's 2014. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Sue Gray report now been submitted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Not to go all Paddy Ashdown*, but I will eat my hat if there's anything damning in there after the Met's intervention. *Like Paddy, I will not be eating my hat if I am wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Michael W said: Not to go all Paddy Ashdown*, but I will eat my hat if there's anything damning in there after the Met's intervention. *Like Paddy, I will not be eating my hat if I am wrong. Agreed. It will be a total whitewash. And you can see Sue Gray being the scapegoat in this. A corrupt police force run by a corrupt commissioner who's job is in the hands of a corrupt government. What could be better? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: Agreed. It will be a total whitewash. And you can see Sue Gray being the scapegoat in this. A corrupt police force run by a corrupt commissioner who's job is in the hands of a corrupt government. What could be better? I really feel for Gray. She doesn't have the power to decide if the PM stays in office or not and can only really state the facts as she finds them. She has had her legs cut off by the Met and when the report unsurprisingly doesn't contain the damning details, she is going to cop a lot of flak. In the meantime, the Government will work as best as it can to bury the bad staff and a few No.10 lackies will be fired over it. Absolutely none of this is Gray's fault. She was landed in a crap position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael W said: I really feel for Gray. She doesn't have the power to decide if the PM stays in office or not and can only really state the facts as she finds them. She has had her legs cut off by the Met and when the report unsurprisingly doesn't contain the damning details, she is going to cop a lot of flak. In the meantime, the Government will work as best as it can to bury the bad staff and a few No.10 lackies will be fired over it. Absolutely none of this is Gray's fault. She was landed in a crap position. Gray was totally stitched up my the Met's intervention at the 11th hour. Cover up and corruption smudged finger prints all over the crime scene. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: Gray was totally stitched up my the Met's intervention at the 11th hour. Cover up and corruption smudged finger prints all over the crime scene. I think she would have been relieved at the Met's intervention. Was she happy to have the opportunity of dropping her boss right in the shit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I think she would have been relieved at the Met's intervention. Was she happy to have the opportunity of dropping her boss right in the shit? Sky News reported earlier that she was furious at the Met's Intervention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael W said: Not to go all Paddy Ashdown*, but I will eat my hat if there's anything damning in there after the Met's intervention. *Like Paddy, I will not be eating my hat if I am wrong. I feel Boris will be taking another ex-Liberal leader, Jeremy Thorpe's, advice ‘Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his life’ I fully expect a few minor flunkies to go in order to prove Boris has dealt with the situation. Edited January 31, 2022 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 "For the past fortnight Sue Gray’s report on “partygate” has been hovering over Downing Street like a huge vulture, seeking only somewhere to land. A redacted version is expected imminently. In the meantime, Boris Johnson is panicking. For partygate he has substituted policygate, a wild orgy of populist pronouncements designed to show he is still in charge. If Johnson cannot lie himself out of trouble, perhaps he can bribe himself out of it.What do you want, everyone? I would get the Treasury to let you off extra taxes, if only that mean Rishi Sunak would let me. I can promise help with gas bills and heating allowances. I can shower the north of England with money and mayors. I can let you visit your loved ones in care homes, perhaps. I can even get on a plane, fly east and pretend to threaten Vladimir Putin with war."https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/31/boris-johnson-lying-bribery-partygate?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Quote The pdf says it runs to 12 pages, but three of them are empty. ....and large text on the other 9 no doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nothing. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1051374/Investigation_into_alleged_gatherings_on_government_premises_during_Covid_restrictions_-_Update.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Quote 10.The Metropolitan Police has now confirmed that as a result of information provided by the Cabinet Office investigation team, as well as assessments made by Metropolitan Police officers, they are investigating the events on the dates set out above with the exception of the gatherings on: • 15 May 2020 • 27 November 2020 • 10 December 2020 • 15 December 2020 11.The police have confirmed that on the basis of the information available the gatherings on these four dates are not considered to have reached the threshold for criminal investigation. 12 in total, 4 considered non-criminal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It's available now at the link Welshbairn posted. Sue Gray investigated 16 events that have taken place. Of those, 12 are being investigated for criminal charges. Only 4 did not meet rhe threshold for further investigation. One of the events under investigation was in Johnson's private home. It might lack details but the summary is a lot more damning than I thought it would be. Johnson will be along saying "wait for.the Met" now, or maybe he'll try his ashamed look reminiscent of a dog that's just been caught shitting on the living room rug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, scottsdad said: 12 in total, 4 considered non-criminal. It's sixteen in total, I think. There are twelve dates that have been examined but some had more than one event being investigated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 As a report we had to wait ages on, there is very little indeed in this. The juicy stuff has been taken out. The most robust it gets is this: Quote There were failures of leadership and judgment by different parts of No 10 and the Cabinet Office at different times. Some of the events should not have been allowed to take place. Other events should not have been allowed to develop as they did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 There's maybe room for more to come but I doubt it will be more than a wrist slap for blowing off steam whilst under "enormous pressure". Quote As a result of the Metropolitan police’s investigations, and so as not to prejudice the police investigative process, they have told me that it would only be appropriate to make minimal reference to the gatherings on the dates they are investigating. Unfortunately, this necessarily means that I am extremely limited in what I can say about those events and it is not possible at present to provide a meaningful report setting out and analysing the extensive factual information I have been able to gather. In respect of the gatherings that the Metropolitan police has assessed as not reaching the threshold for criminal investigation; they have not requested any limitations be placed on the description of those events, however, I have decided not to publish factual accounts in relation to those four dates. I do not feel that I am able to do so without detriment to the overall balance of the findings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Michael W said: I really feel for Gray. She doesn't have the power to decide if the PM stays in office or not and can only really state the facts as she finds them. She has had her legs cut off by the Met and when the report unsurprisingly doesn't contain the damning details, she is going to cop a lot of flak. In the meantime, the Government will work as best as it can to bury the bad staff and a few No.10 lackies will be fired over it. Absolutely none of this is Gray's fault. She was landed in a crap position. Gonna need a much bigger patio. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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