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30 minutes ago, btb said:

Jennifer Arcuri his ex from BJs GLA days is set to dish the dirt on him. BJs patter “How can I be the thrust?" seems to be straight from the Sid James Book of Double Entendres and it  won't affect him at Westminster but every little helps.

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 “How can I be the thrust – the throttle – your mere footstep as you make your career? Tell me: how I can help you?”

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3 hours ago, welshbairn said:

 

3 hours ago, btb said:

Jennifer Arcuri his ex from BJs GLA days is set to dish the dirt on him. BJs patter “How can I be the thrust?" seems to be straight from the Sid James Book of Double Entendres and it  won't affect him at Westminster but every little helps.

 

Would be good to think BJ could be called to account here, but I have no doubts the establishment will close ranks here, just as they always do, to protect themselves.

 

 

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Dementia Tax is back on the agenda. 

From the Tory point of view the plebs have too much money because of housing and stock market bubbles which must continue indefinitely so this will reduce that. 

The huge conditioning of large parts of the population to a complete aversion to inheritance tax has led us here. Millions of people who would fight to the death against a 50 grand tax bill on a 300 grand estate will find himself losing a shit load more. People with less than 200 grand who would have paid next to nothing on McDonnell's plans may find themselves wiped out completely. 

Economic illiteracy got us here. 

 

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1 hour ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

And as the man who would be Churchill witters on about supersonic rail links and business needing people with skills, he can't even read from a prepared speech. Yup, the giant who'll stride the world stage to make Britain great. What a joke.

To be cynical, it could have been a pre-planned "screw up" to deflect attention away from the social care vote in Parliament today.

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Anyone else feeling deja vu regarding The Donald Boris and the regular rounds of "surely now he has to go?"

The electorate love him, and he's already won the next election. He seems willing to do almost anything to make his party's MPs unaccountable, so the majority of them will likely love him too. The only threat to his position is from the ambitious snakes in his cabinet, who aren't likely to get much support for a coup for those reasons. The job's his for the foreseeable.

You do have to wonder why he'd want it, though. His popularity will only go downhill from here, and he's surely feathered his own nest with contacts & dodgy deals as much as he needs to be very comfortable for the rest of his life. Is it just greed and vanity that keeps Prime Ministers in No. 10 until they're dragged out into the street?

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25 minutes ago, Antlion said:

“What a jolly great English eccentric, what. Just the sort of dying breed those Eurocrats tried to kill off. Capital. Backbone of the empire.”

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I don't know, fluffing your lines and basically doing an ad hoc skit on the last children's cartoon you saw at the CBI is pretty bad for a Tory. Could be a significant milestone. 

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If he gets the Tory MPs to vote for the Social Care bill then he is showing his power and effectiveness. May fucked it up, Johnson looks like he will get it done.

The CBI don't give a f**k what Boris says to them, they only care about their bottom line and the social care bill is going to pour housing wealth into the bank accounts of super rich who own the UK's private care sector. That will be followed by pension funds being forced to invest in 'Green' schemes which again will mainly just transfer wealth from the asset owning middle class to the super rich.

 

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46 minutes ago, Antlion said:

“What a jolly great English eccentric, what. Just the sort of dying breed those Eurocrats tried to kill off. Capital. Backbone of the empire.”

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The Telegraph thinks it's great, and the Express have just completely ignored the story. 

Peppa Pig. Jesus wept. This khunt is just ripping the pish out of the whole country. 

 

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As to when Johnson will go, he goes when he is no longer of use to the Conservative Party and not before. Their MPs will put up with his pish as embarrassing as it is until they are consistently behind in the polls. When their election prospects start to look bleak, they'll cut him loose in an instant.

 

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1 minute ago, Michael W said:

As to when Johnson will go, he goes when he is no longer of use to the Conservative Party and not before. Their MPs will put up with his pish as embarrassing as it is until they are consistently behind in the polls. When their election prospects start to look bleak, they'll cut him loose in an instant.

 

Absolutely this. 

Wearily, we should all note that the 'Boris factor'......the fact that he's a lying, cheating, sleazebag and coward......is already built into people's perception of him. 

We live in times where diplomatic and political ability mean nothing to huge swathes of people. Populism trumps all, and that populism gives the Tories the power that they crave. 

As long as Johnson keeps them in power, he could eat babies, invade Belgium and sell the NHS to North Korea, and the Tories wouldn't give a feck. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Absolutely this. 

Wearily, we should all note that the 'Boris factor'......the fact that he's a lying, cheating, sleazebag and coward......is already built into people's perception of him. 

We live in times where diplomatic and political ability mean nothing to huge swathes of people. Populism trumps all, and that populism gives the Tories the power that they crave. 

As long as Johnson keeps them in power, he could eat babies, invade Belgium and sell the NHS to North Korea, and the Tories wouldn't give a feck. 

 

It's bewildering, but it's correct. They tolerate him because he is perversely popular with voters. OK, 'popular' is a bit of a stretch, but he seems to be liked by some voters that usually wouldn't go near the Tories. 

Is it just Brexit? He can't drag this one out forever - yes there are still components of Brexit still being fought (NI Protocol), but he won 'the war': Brexit happened. The hardcore kicking and screaming for another vote have been defeated and are an increasing Twitter irrelevance, whilst bad news stories on Brexit fail to bother those that voted for it. He can ride those out without too much issue.

Is it his persona? Can't argue that he's charismatic and always positive, but it stands up to no scrutiny - his promises are worth about as much as a German Mark was in 1923 and everything he says is absolute bollocks. That stuff today was just weird and embarrassing, the sort of thing you'd expect from a grad scheme employee who was thrown in with no prep whatsoever. He says a lot of things, some of which all very positive which I'm sure people want to hear rather than negativity, but he never delivers on them. I think we've probably just about all worked with someone like that and we end up hating their guts. Doesn't seem to register with Johnson though. 

Is it that people think he's one of them? Really, I truly don't get this but it seems to resonate with some people. He's of a privileged background and therefore the answer in the vast majority of cases is 'no', but looking beyond his wealth background and into his private life, he really is a dreadful man. 

I don't get why remains relatively popular, but more importantly the Labour Party can't seem to understand it either. Or perhaps more worryingly, they don't want to understand why a clown continues to get away with it as it might prompt some seriously difficult self-reflection. 

Quite a lot of Tory MPs seem to hbe quite fed up with him, but yet they never speak out. Maybe fear is one thing, but if he's not costing them votes, it's a risk they don't want to take either.

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It is a fact that (mostly in England, but not exclusively) social values have become increasingly right wing, while economic values have remained mostly in the centre ground, maybe even slightly left of centre. 

A perfect breeding ground for populism. Throw in a 'maverick' politician who promises to clamp down on immigration while at the same time loosening government purse strings for massive projects, and 'levelling up', and Johnson's moment had come. 

I'm tempted to say that it began with the Brexit campaign, but it didn't. It began with the poison of UKIP and Farage, the fact that they were allowed such heavy publicity while being essentially a minority party of extremists, and the fear that is installed in the Tories. 

Johnson has never been at heart a foreigner hating, anti centralist on the lunatic fringes of the Tories.  But he was prepared to wear that persona to gain power.....he's almost certainly the most maleable PM this country has ever had, shape-shifting according to whichever way he sees the wind blowing. 

While Brexit wasn't the catalyst, it certainly created a vacuum in British politics which left Labour floundering and which has been eagerly filled by the right, with Johnson simply being the figurehead for a cabal of nastly, eveil fuckers behind him. 

Maybe one day UK voters will get sick of him, and at that point he'll be gone. The Tories will be watching closley though to see if the UK sickens of right wing populism at the same time, that'll dictate who replaces him. 

 

 

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