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I had actually forgotten some of these.  No other PM would have survived a fraction of this.  A totally disreputable arsehole.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/19/1000-days-of-boris-johnson-as-prime-minister-proroguing-parliament-partygate

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Starmer excoriated Johnson across the despatch box and it seemed to me that the latter was left shaken like I haven't seen him before but then again I haven't surveyed the inside of a fridge with him.

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2 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Contrition and humilty.  FML

BoJo has repeatedly stated that he accepts the police findings. He could have challenged the case in the court, but didn't do so. 

If that is accepted, we are therefore left with the inescapable conclusion that either he has been lying repeatedly to Parliament and to us, or that he didn't understand his own rules. There really isn't any other conclusion available. 

Either of these conclusions render him unfit for office. 

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I no longer live in the UK, but this is very much the effect of giving genuine joke candidates positions of power and authority. Boris and JRM were figures of fun, and pretty good at it, but it's the fault of the British public either became anything more than that. You get when you deserve.

Rishi Sunak, whatever you think of his politics, is relatively competent and his blunder is more surprising.

If Boris is elected again, this (or something worse) will happen again because....of course it will? He is totally, obviously, incompetent and severely morally impaired. Obvious take, but if he was sorry for attending the party he should have admitted it when the news broke, not repeatedly misled parliament. He doesn't care that he did it, he only cares that he was stupid enough to get caught.

I know Scotland doesn't vote for this government, but it's a complete embarrassment that anyone does. There's nothing partisan about calling out how bad these guys are.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:

No hiding place anymore behind the sanctity of democracy

You say democracy, but with every unveiling of yet another "misled", or lying as most people would say, it is coming under severe pressure. Perhaps it should be "democracy" until this shit show of a government are held to account and journalists (aye, I know) subject them to intense and forensic examination. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/20/boris-johnson-vote-partygate-cost-of-living-crisis-prime-minister

"In short, Labour has gone out of its way to encourage as many Tory MPs as possible to show their doubts. But the softly, softly approach has a longer purpose too. It means that all those who vote against the motion will also have no excuse in future. They will go on the record as signed-up co-owners of Johnson’s actions and lies. Their votes for Johnson are certain to form the basis of thousands of targeted general election messages. Because lockdown parties have outraged most of the general public, Thursday’s vote will therefore weaken both Johnson and the Tories.

Political eclipse is almost never an overnight business. The drip-drip of vanishing authority takes time. David Cameron is probably the only 21st-century prime minister to fall quickly. The others have seen their authority dwindle away bit by bit. The same thing is now happening to Johnson in front of our eyes. It’s even visible in the way he looks and sounds. You don’t come back from things like this."

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47 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

You say democracy, but with every unveiling of yet another "misled", or lying as most people would say, it is coming under severe pressure. Perhaps it should be "democracy" until this shit show of a government are held to account and journalists (aye, I know) subject them to intense and forensic examination. 

The two biggest issues with ‘democracy’ as far as Westminster is concerned is FPTP and the lack of any genuine independent oversight.

Neither of these will be rectified by either Labour or the Tories.

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4 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

I seen on YouTube a speech from Starmer where he went in 2 footed on Boris today.

He also mentioned that mop headed w**k who said teachers and nurses were at it too.

Anyway, as Starmer went on to tell the tale of a guy who followed the rules, and as a result his wife died in hospital alone and various family members were unable to attend his funeral.

During the rather sad and morbid part, the camera cut to mop headed w**k sitting chuckling to himself.

Anyone who votes tory is a c**t. Once again, we are way past the point where you can credibly reconcile these reptiles behaviour in public office with a few policies here and there that you approve of.

Vote Tory, and you are a fucling wretch. No hiding place anymore behind the sanctity of democracy.

That was actually yesterday but Starmer was effective again today.

Beyond the braggadocio, Johnson is a very poor debater and Starmer had him bang to rights.

In debate there is little in the way of substance about him and his repetition of daft phrases e.g. "Scottish Nationalist Party" and meaningless slogans like "tackling the energy crisis" marks him down as little more than Trumpian. 

 

Also "leading the fight against Putin".

I think you'll find that'll be the Ukrainians.

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17 hours ago, Satoshi said:

Rishi Sunak, whatever you think of his politics, is relatively competent and his blunder is more surprising

 

 

 

Sorry, chief, but there is no evidence of competence here. During the pandemic he was giving away cash and taking the plaudits. Now we see the end result. Billions lost to fraud, causing a tory minister to resign. No answer to the cost of living crisis, inflation, or anything. He has just jacked up national insurance at the same time as energy costs jumped up massively. 

It is easy to look good when hosing cash around, and he made the most of it. But beyond that he is an empty suit. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/20/starmer-makes-no-attempt-to-conceal-his-hatred-and-contempt-for-the-convict

"Keir Starmer was in no mood to let Johnson off the hook. He began with a simple question. One to which he knew The Convict had no answer. Why had he accepted Allegra Stratton’s resignation? If there had never been any parties, as he had frequently told MPs, why was there any need for her to leave No 10? Boris mumbled incoherently and tugged The Toddler Haircut. His face was pasty and he was looking like carrion. It’s a surprise no one has suggested he goes for his own good, never mind the country’s.

This was a visceral cross-examination. The Labour leader used to try to keep PMQs on a strictly professional working basis. The forensic semi-detached lawyer. But now he makes no attempt to conceal his hatred and contempt for Johnson. It drips like acid from every sentence. And is all the more deadly for it. It’s not the rambling, shambolic dislike that Boris has for Starmer and anyone else who dares challenge him. It’s directed with laser precision."

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5 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Sorry, chief, but there is no evidence of competence here. During the pandemic he was giving away cash and taking the plaudits. Now we see the end result. Billions lost to fraud, causing a tory minister to resign. No answer to the cost of living crisis, inflation, or anything. He has just jacked up national insurance at the same time as energy costs jumped up massively. 

It is easy to look good when hosing cash around, and he made the most of it. But beyond that he is an empty suit. 

Going to have to agree to disagree there, it remains to be seen how good a politician he is (or even if he has some moral compass) but it's clear he's an intelligent, capable person. Which should be the minimum but absolutely does not apply to Johnson, Truss or Patel (and many many others in that government).

I would love for the UK to have a Macron or Merkel - Sturgeon is clearly the closest we have but she will only ever rule Scotland (less than 1/11th of the UKs population).

Give us someone boring and competent please, who understand the basic requirements of leadership.

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