The official Boris pm cluster-fuck thread

[Clown Job]

28 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It’s nothing to do with its economic practicalities and it’s certainly not about taking a humanitarian approach.  It’s about appealing to the most base instinct of a group of voters who want to see people punished for having the temerity to pursue a better life, particularly as they are non-white people.

Excatly the cruelty is the point 

It wasn’t that long ago they had been criticising the RNLI for not letting them drown in the English Channel and looking at giving border force immunity for allowing it to happen. 

[101]

 

Spot on. Sadly.

[dirty dingus]

Seen an interesting reply on twitter from an aircraft tech saying ground crews should refuse to work on the planes getting used to transfer the refugees on humanitarian grounds and also a boycott of any commercial airline taking part in this fucked up scheme.

[Salt n Vinegar]

52 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

Surprised they haven't suggested just packing the poor off to Rwanda as well

Now you've done it... 

Cue statement in the Commons.  Some bollox like "in the interests of providing improved tourism opportunities for the less well off, the Government proposes....." 

[coprolite]

1 hour ago, williemillersmoustache said:

"Rwanda has a good record on human rights" - Simon Hart, Secretary of State for Wales.

 

 

Who to believe, a Tory, or Human Rights Watch? 

The ruling Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) continues to target those perceived as a threat to the government. Several high-profile critics have been arrested or threatened and authorities regularly fail to conduct credible investigations into cases of enforced disappearances and suspicious deaths of government opponents. Arbitrary detention, ill-treatment, and torture in official and unofficial detention facilities is commonplace, and fair trial standards are routinely flouted in many sensitive political cases, in which security-related charges are often used to prosecute prominent government critics. Arbitrary detention and mistreatment of street children, sex workers and petty vendors occurs widely.

[Brother Blades]

Now Dross’s about turn makes perfect sense, he’ll be hoping there are a few spare spaces on the flights to fire in a few Romany travellers. 

[coprolite]

Apparently restricted to single men? 

Equalities act anyone? 

[williemillersmoustache]

30 minutes ago, coprolite said:

Who to believe, a Tory, or Human Rights Watch? 

The ruling Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) continues to target those perceived as a threat to the government. Several high-profile critics have been arrested or threatened and authorities regularly fail to conduct credible investigations into cases of enforced disappearances and suspicious deaths of government opponents. Arbitrary detention, ill-treatment, and torture in official and unofficial detention facilities is commonplace, and fair trial standards are routinely flouted in many sensitive political cases, in which security-related charges are often used to prosecute prominent government critics. Arbitrary detention and mistreatment of street children, sex workers and petty vendors occurs widely.

Or the UK government who wanted the UN to investigate the Rwanda government for human rights abuses, last year. 

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Or the UK government who wanted the UN to investigate the Rwanda government for human rights abuses, last year. 

That's in the past. It doesn't count anymore

[williemillersmoustache]

3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

That's exactly what that cúnt Hart was saying on Sky - Male adult = economic migrant, female or child = refugee.

Strangely enough, he hadn't thought of who says a male with no papers is an adult?

An absolute fucking mystery why you see more young adult males successfully fleeing war zones across deserts, over mountains, across shipping lanes on lilos and not more obviously deserving humans like old people, pregnant woman, the disabled and acceptably cute little kids. 

[Big Rider]

38 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

That's in the past. It doesn't count anymore

There is a war on don’t you know. Now is not the time to look at the past.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

9 minutes ago, Big Rider said:

There is a war on don’t you know. Now is not the time to look at the past.

They carry on like this, they may find something very like a war in this country..

[Soapy FFC]

28 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

 

Empire: Built on slavery and exploitation of native peoples and local resources.

 

I was just thinking that, we still hoover up the valuable resources like doctors and nurses from African countries (because we don't want to pay for their training here), and now we are trying to dump the 'rubbish' we don't want back onto them in return. The Tories are trying to relive the glory years of the empire.

[Florentine_Pogen]

4 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said:

5 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Move the narrative on.  Announcing something utterly cunty. When the next round of fines come out it will be national service, the death penalty or they'll just euthanise Liz. Government by trolling.

Straight out the Lynton Crosby playbook. Aided by the media lapping shite like that up.

Dead cat strategy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The dead cat strategy, or deadcatting, is the introduction of a dramatic, shocking, or sensationalist topic to divert discourse away from a more damaging topic.^[1][2] The strategy, or at least the "dead cat" metaphor to describe it, is particularly associated with Australian political strategist Lynton Crosby.^[3][4]

Boris Johnson employed Crosby as his campaign manager during the 2008 and 2012 London mayoral elections, and wrote of his advice that "There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief."^[4]

Edited April 14, 2022 by Florentine_Pogen

[Soapy FFC]

3 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Dead cat strategy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The dead cat strategy, or deadcatting, is the introduction of a dramatic, shocking, or sensationalist topic to divert discourse away from a more damaging topic.^[1][2] The strategy, or at least the "dead cat" metaphor to describe it, is particularly associated with Australian political strategist Lynton Crosby.^[3][4]

Boris Johnson employed Crosby as his campaign manager during the 2008 and 2012 London mayoral elections, and wrote of his advice that "There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief."^[4]

Hopefully related to a Dead Cat Bounce.

Quote

In finance, a dead cat bounce is a small, brief recovery in the price of a declining stock.[1] Derived from the idea that "even a dead cat will bounce if it falls from a great height",[2] the phrase, which originated on Wall Street, is also popularly applied to any case where a subject experiences a brief resurgence during or following a severe decline.

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Soapy FFC

[WhiteRoseKillie]

6 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

I was just thinking that, we still hoover up the valuable resources like doctors and nurses from African countries (because we don't want to pay for their training here), and now we are trying to dump the 'rubbish' we don't want back onto them in return. The Tories are trying to relive the glory years of the empire.

As the old gag goes:

What seems British but isn't?

The contents of the British Museum.

Badoom and, indeed, tish. IThangYew.

[Florentine_Pogen]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/13/boris-johnson-partygate-tory-party

"Boris Johnson was never going to resign if he didn’t have to. This is all about the Tory party’s view of him now. The party knows as well as you or I that Johnson lied about the lockdown parties. It knows that the lies hit middle Britain, conscientiously obeying the lockdown laws, in the gut. It knows the Tories will take a hit for it in the local elections and eventually the general election too. Yet, remarkably, when it weighs all this up, the Tory party thinks this does not matter all that much."

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It would be great if going public too soon scuppered the whole thing.

[Salt n Vinegar]

I'm no expert on Rwanda, so I googled "Rwandan".  The first item that came up was "Rwandan genocide".

Well, I suppose it's famous for at least one thing. 

[Salvo Montalbano]

10 minutes ago, 101 said:

It would be great if going public too soon scuppered the whole thing.

"Not clear what has changed"?