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14 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Not taking Westminster seats could be part of an escalating process if we're refused a referendum after a clear electoral mandate, but I doubt it would be a game changer on its own, especially with a Tory majority. No overall majority on the other hand?

Refusing to take your seats works best alongside a prolonged campaign of mass murder. 

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1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:

The kunt doubles down on the Saville reference at PMQs. FFS !!!

It's getting traction. 

It's went from "nothing to do with Starmer" to "Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions but a subordinate was responsible for reviewing allegations against Saville and deciding not to charge him".

On Briefcase Twitter that is a full exoneration for Kieth but for the less HR brained masses it seems a bit fishy. 

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The big thing with the whole Saville side show from the government is that it is an attempt at deflection from the goings on at no.10, but to use the US style playbook will not work in UK. We do not vote for a PM as such, so no matter how BJ wants to play to the far right conspiracies, ultimately it does not play well with Tory voters at all, let alone Tory MP's. They will oust him for that and more and there will be more people disgusted by his attempts that swayed by them. That doesn't help the tories in constituency elections.

It does probably help in areas where the likes of UKIP/Brexit Party or whatever they call themselves now, have a base. 

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53 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said:

The big thing with the whole Saville side show from the government is that it is an attempt at deflection from the goings on at no.10, but to use the US style playbook will not work in UK. We do not vote for a PM as such, so no matter how BJ wants to play to the far right conspiracies, ultimately it does not play well with Tory voters at all, let alone Tory MP's. They will oust him for that and more and there will be more people disgusted by his attempts that swayed by them. That doesn't help the tories in constituency elections.

Were you by any chance in a coma from October 2017 until January 2020?

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3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

My MP is sitting beside Blackford, the first time I've seen her at PMQs in months.

Perhaps something to do with Scottish Questions being immediately before.

Also, all of the MPs can't fit into the chamber at the same time so some might habitually avoid the stramash

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1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Were you by any chance in a coma from October 2017 until January 2020?

Aye, how come?

The Tories tolerated Johnson because he allowed then to win things, but at heart, while they are morally odious, they are not Trumpian and deep down, do not respond well to the approaches and views he takes. We are seeing that now he is deemed an electoral liability.

That said, you reap what you sow. They need to own him and his actions. 

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1 minute ago, Theyellowbox said:

Aye, how come?

The Tories tolerated Johnson because he allowed then to win things, but at heart, while they are morally odious, they are not Trumpian and deep down, do not respond well to the approaches and views he takes. We are seeing that now he is deemed an electoral liability.

That said, you reap what you sow. They need to own him and his actions. 

Because they were employing far right conspiracy theories on a huge scale to attack Corbyn long before Johnson was leader. 

And going back decades they have consistently been virulently racist, eg supporting Apartheid South Africa, and homophobic, creating section 28, plus disgusting stuff like villfying single mothers. 

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2 hours ago, Theyellowbox said:

The big thing with the whole Saville side show from the government is that it is an attempt at deflection from the goings on at no.10, but to use the US style playbook will not work in UK. We do not vote for a PM as such, so no matter how BJ wants to play to the far right conspiracies, ultimately it does not play well with Tory voters at all, let alone Tory MP's. They will oust him for that and more and there will be more people disgusted by his attempts that swayed by them. That doesn't help the tories in constituency elections.

It does probably help in areas where the likes of UKIP/Brexit Party or whatever they call themselves now, have a base. 

Here's a map of those areas:

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