KingRocketman II Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 BBC Radio Scotland's David Porter assessment this morning was that Johnson's performance in the Commons and afterwards in a private Tory meeting last night has won support back from his party and although he not yet "out of the woods" his position is stronger. There are a few "bumps to be negotiated a little further down the road" but blah blah blah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 ^^^^ it does indeed seem to be the emerging narrative. What a fuckin state we are in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 First words out of Raaaab's mouth on Sky were a bare faced lie this morning. Tories gonna Tory..("The Sue Gray report has been published in full") 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: First words out of Raaaab's mouth on Sky were a bare faced lie this morning. Tories gonna Tory.. ("The Sue Gray report has been published in full") Do they think we're idiots? Spoiler Yes they do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 BBC Radio Scotland's David Porter assessment this morning was that Johnson's performance in the Commons and afterwards in a private Tory meeting last night has won support back from his party and although he not yet "out of the woods" his position is stronger. There are a few "bumps to be negotiated a little further down the road" but blah blah blah. I would take anything Pravda says with a large shovel of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, coprolite said: Do they think we're idiots? Reveal hidden contents Yes they do. The sad thing is, they’re mostly right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 As much as clean shirt Twitter wants to spin this as an outrage if Grenfell, cash for honours, Iraq, Libya, the Manchester bombing, Windrush, prorouging Parliament and 101 other scandals weren't resigning matters neither is this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Quite amused at the hacks suddenly deciding smears are bad when it’s aimed at Keir Starmer. They’re all still pals with Tom Newton-Dunn who published far right propaganda on the front pages during the 2019 election and never apologised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 11 hours ago, Jedi said: ...And there we are. 5 Live reporting that at an open meeting of all Tory MP's tonight, not a single one called for him to go. The mood was 'very positive', and some felt 'pumped up' after hearing the man himself announce his grand plans going forward. any word from DRoss today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 11 hours ago, Jedi said: ...And there we are. 5 Live reporting that at an open meeting of all Tory MP's tonight, not a single one called for him to go. The mood was 'very positive', and some felt 'pumped up' after hearing the man himself announce his grand plans going forward. This is just transparently shite. I counted about half a dozen in the commons saying he had to go. They've all shat it? Really? Kuensberg shockingly toeing this line on the wireless too. The BBC has zero credibility for reporting uk politics and should be ignored. Al Jazeera reported Johnson as a serial liar and a hypocrite who was engaging in diversionary tactics. Laura K spent the morning dispensing the secret knowledge that "the polls are important to MPs" while gossiping about potential challengers' support. This island reeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Unless Tory MPs get bombarded with emails calling for him to go over the next 24 hours then Johnson'll likely stay. PMQs tomorrow will be interesting, Blackford should be back (IIRC the suspension is normally just for the day), will he call him a liar again? Edited February 1, 2022 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, coprolite said: Kuensberg shockingly toeing this line on the wireless too. If only it was shocking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, btb said: PMQs tomorrow will be interesting, Blackford should be back (IIRC the suspension is normally just for the day), will he call him a liar again? Hope so 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, btb said: Unless Tory MPs get bombarded with emails calling for him to go over the next 24 hours then Johnson'll likely stay. PMQs tomorrow will be interesting, Blackford should be back (IIRC the suspension is normally just for the day), will he call him a liar again? It would be better if half a dozen or so different MPs called the PM a liar to his face every time he was in the chamber. I thought Johnson's performance yesterday was dire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: It would be better if half a dozen or so different MPs called the PM a liar to his face every time he was in the chamber. I thought Johnson's performance yesterday was dire. Well yeah, the convention that a minister wouldn't lie to the House would resign when it was obvious they had lied is now a thing of the past so why should the other half remain? The question is would what you're suggesting be effective or should the SNP group as a whole leave if Blackford repeats his accusation and is thrown out again altho that would have been more impressive if they had done so yesterday spontaneously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Well yeah, the convention that a minister wouldn't lie to the House would resign when it was obvious they had lied is now a thing of the past so why should the other half remain? The question is would what you're suggesting be effective or should the SNP group as a whole leave if Blackford repeats his accusation and is thrown out again altho that would have been more impressive if they had done so yesterday spontaneously. Every time an opposition MP stands to ask a question, make sure they call the PM a liar as part of the question.Getting thrown out one at a time would make more impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, btb said: Well yeah, the convention that a minister wouldn't lie to the House would resign when it was obvious they had lied is now a thing of the past so why should the other half remain? The question is would what you're suggesting be effective or should the SNP group as a whole leave if Blackford repeats his accusation and is thrown out again altho that would have been more impressive if they had done so yesterday spontaneously. Not so sure about a mass walk out. I think a 'drip, drip" approach would have a longer lasting effect. As you say, having a disciplinary system based on the' principle that all members are, by definition, "honourable" is absurd. Still, so many folk have suggested outside the protection of Parliament that he has lied that if he sues them he will be even wealthier than he wants to be. Edited February 1, 2022 by Salt n Vinegar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, btb said: Unless Tory MPs get bombarded with emails calling for him to go over the next 24 hours then Johnson'll likely stay. PMQs tomorrow will be interesting, Blackford should be back (IIRC the suspension is normally just for the day), will he call him a liar again? I also liked it when he said he didn't want to be Boris' friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caledonian1 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Not so sure about a mass walk out. I think a 'drip, drip" approach would have a longer lasting effect. As you say, having a disciplinary system based on the' principle that all members are, by definition, "honourable" is absurd. Still, so many folk have suggested outside the protection of Parliament that he has lied that if he sues them he will be even wealthier than he wants to be. In terms of Independence it is of course better that Boris stays and inevitably moves from this disaster to the next 347 disasters. It would also put the Tories in Holyrood in disary as they have all called for his head. Who would replace DRoss as leader....no way could he continue for a few more months under Boris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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