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The Beeb had two major tests of its impartiality in the Scottish Independence Referendum and Corbyn's tenure as leader of the Labour Party and it fucked the both of them. There's plenty of credible arguments to be made about the need for the BBC but the people who could've made those arguments from a position of power have been purposely shoved out of public life and the BBC played no small part in facilitating that.

Labour's previous proposals to reform the press and the BBC itself would've benefitted the corporation but it chose to throw itself at the mercy of lunatics like Nadine Dorries so that's a shame for them. Can't say they weren't warned.

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15 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

It's about getting the right-wing press back onside. 

Can anyone remember a time when policy was formulated on the basis that, in all probability it might actually be a good idea?

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25 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

The Beeb had two major tests of its impartiality in the Scottish Independence Referendum and Corbyn's tenure as leader of the Labour Party and it fucked the both of them. There's plenty of credible arguments to be made about the need for the BBC but the people who could've made those arguments from a position of power have been purposely shoved out of public life and the BBC played no small part in facilitating that.

Labour's previous proposals to reform the press and the BBC itself would've benefitted the corporation but it chose to throw itself at the mercy of lunatics like Nadine Dorries so that's a shame for them. Can't say they weren't warned.

On Indyref, I really ended up disliking the BBC for their clear bias. 

A typical day would be, for instance, Yes releasing a statement that independence would help the NHS, and Better Together releasing one saying independence would cause prices to go up in Asda. The BBC would then report the Better Together story, and allow a Yes spokesman time to rebut that argument. So they gave both sides equal time on their news but not equal coverage, because all that people came away with was the prices story and nothing else. 

Every time, this is what happened.

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4 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

I think there’s definitely a fundamental requirement to have a BBC, but not necessarily the BBC.

You can't carry on with a system where the Government can force the BBC to appoint its supporters to all the top positions by threatening to withhold funding or close it down. They're also trying to put Paul fucking Dacre in charge of the supposedly independent regulator Offcom.  

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28 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

I think there’s definitely a fundamental requirement to have a BBC, but not necessarily the BBC.

Bit if a shame Meldrew was banned. He would have had some awful picture or comment to make here about BBCs.

Then again, he was a compete roaster so probably best he's away.

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1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:
5 hours ago, doulikefish said:
It's only Monday give it time 

Aye presumably he'll be sneaking back into the public eye tomorrow following his mighty convenient close contact with another treat as part of operation red (dug) meat.

Monday isn't done 

https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-no-10-policy-chiefs-explored-using-powerful-sonic-weapons-to-halt-journeys-across-the-english-channel-12518663?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&s=09

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For its faults, the BBC gives us exactly what we need. The view that often enrages all of us and often conforms to our views. To that end it does its job. Take GB news as an example of what News should not be. Clearly politically aligned. No BBC and that is just a glimpse into our futures.

The attacks on the BBC are a replication of Brexit. Whip folk up into a rage about something they had no concern with before.

Ask yourselves the question, who gains in the BBC is fully or partially privatised? Is this governments issue with the whole BBC or just the news bit? 

What does need to be addresses though is the impartiality or more accurately the professionalism of some of the BBC journalists. Take a look at a lot of the senior journalists and who their spouses are or were. Why did the BBC not break the 20th May party story despite having multiple sources? There is too many cozy connections there, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

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Any body language experts like to comment on the BoJo interview with Beth Rigby just shown on Sky? I'm not an expert but Mrs SnV studied aspects of it during her degree a long time ago. 

She's pointed out that when dealing with questions about what he knew about the parties, his eyes were all over the place.  When dealing with issues about recovery from covid, he couldn't keep his eyes off Rigby.  Not proof but interesting nonetheless. 

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Following JRM saying that DRoss should be supporting Johnson regardless of what he's done, knowledge of this mindset makes it impossible to listen to any cabinet minister's thoughts on the matter with the remotest part of seriousness.

Every Tory being interviewed just now reminds me of 'Sir Geoffrey Norman, MP' from the Fast Show.

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"No, no, no, no... I never saw that, and even if there happens to be evidence of it happening, I can categorically say that it never happened..."

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