Granny Danger Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, San Starko Rover said: It’s Jacob Rees-Mogg that baffles me, the guy is an utterly entitled p***k who is on a different planet to the rest of us, who the hell votes for him. At least Boris has his bumbling buffoon act that appeals to many people but Mogg is just an arrogant arsehole. Mogg acts the way he does because he knows he can; it’s a byproduct of entitlement. In the grand scheme of things it’s a fairly benign manifestation. Compare it to the Tories handing out hundreds of millions to their friends in contracts during a pandemic. That’s a more severe manifestation of the same entitlement; they know that they will not be held accountable for an act which is genuinely scandalous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Mogg acts the way he does because he knows he can; it’s a byproduct of entitlement. In the grand scheme of things it’s a fairly benign manifestation. Compare it to the Tories handing out hundreds of millions to their friends in contracts during a pandemic. That’s a more severe manifestation of the same entitlement; they know that they will not be held accountable for an act which is genuinely scandalous. Yes but it doesn’t explain why he gets voted in by the people of his constituency and that’s what baffles me. I could understand if he was in the HOL but how does Mogg appeal to the average man in the street. Tory voters or not I genuinely can’t see how anyone outside the Upper class look at him and say “yes that’s the guy to represent us” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, San Starko Rover said: Yes but it doesn’t explain why he gets voted in by the people of his constituency and that’s what baffles me. I could understand if he was in the HOL but how does Mogg appeal to the average man in the street. Tory voters or not I genuinely can’t see how anyone outside the Upper class look at him and say “yes that’s the guy to represent us” You underestimate the pull of the class system for people. Many will happily look up to Mogg so long as they in turn can feel superior to others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 You underestimate the pull of the class system for people. Many will happily look up to Mogg so long as they in turn can feel superior to others.A truly sad state of affairs that people will vote for a person who I’ve no doubts looks down at them as mere peasants just because he comes from a privileged background. It amazes me that people in the UK are still willing to doff their cap for “their betters” in the 21st century. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, San Starko Rover said: A truly sad state of affairs that people will vote for a person who I’ve no doubts looks down at them as mere peasants just because he comes from a privileged background. It amazes me that people in the UK are still willing to doff their cap for “their betters” in the 21st century. Totally agree. It also reminds me of the Tory politicians who talk about running the country “like a business” and the voters who buy into that. The idea that a country should have the same objectives as a business is mind bogglingly stupid. But again it’s an example of the ruling classes influence over the mindset of voters. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 You underestimate the pull of the class system for people. Many will happily look up to Mogg so long as they in turn can feel superior to others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Did it not turn out that the guy who was on the news for months shouting "stop Brexit!" was Rees Mogg's neighbour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Did it not turn out that the guy who was on the news for months shouting "stop Brexit!" was Rees Mogg's neighbour? I think he rented a flat in the building opposite for a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, San Starko Rover said: Yes but it doesn’t explain why he gets voted in by the people of his constituency and that’s what baffles me. I could understand if he was in the HOL but how does Mogg appeal to the average man in the street. Tory voters or not I genuinely can’t see how anyone outside the Upper class look at him and say “yes that’s the guy to represent us” Gerrymandered seat with low unemployment, low council housing and lots of farmers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I think he rented a flat in the building opposite for a bit.Yeh, apparently he was loaded to renting that flat was chump change 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I think people vote for Mogg because he's the Tory candidate. They'd probably vote for a convicted rapist or paedo if he was put forward by Tory central. Nothing would make them not vote Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, MacDuffman said: I think people vote for Mogg because he's the Tory candidate. They'd probably vote for a convicted rapist or paedo if he was put forward by Tory central. Nothing would make them not vote Tory. They probably do tbqh. Well except for the convicted part. A convicted tory will be the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) said: They probably do tbqh. Well except for the convicted part. A convicted tory will be the day. Charlie Elphicke (former Tory MP) was convicted and is in jail. The establishment covered up child sex abuse by Greville Janner (Labour MP and Peer) and Cyril Smith (Labour councillor and Liberal MP). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Charlie Elphicke (former Tory MP) was convicted and is in jail. The establishment covered up child sex abuse by Greville Janner (Labour MP and Peer) and Cyril Smith (Labour councillor and Liberal MP). A peer If he had been truly Labour, he'd have been nowhere near that place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) said: A peer If he had been truly Labour, he'd have been nowhere near that place. There are a lot former Labour MPs and trade unionists in the Lords. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: There are a lot former Labour MPs and trade unionists in the Lords. Thanks for proving my point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 The HoL should be abolished/replaced tomorrow but to say that while it exists left figures shouldn't sit in it is wild imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Is it? It's a chamber of parliament, if you'd rather see it solely full of Tories and bishops then fair enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: It's one thing if half a dozen shinners don't show up, it's another if the representatives of half the country don't. Which just becomes an attack line for the Tories about disrespect for British traditions which our media will gobble up with glee. If Labour were in power and made that decision it would be a different story I think but right now I don't see what good it does anyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I think people vote for Mogg because he's the Tory candidate. They'd probably vote for a convicted rapist or paedo if he was put forward by Tory central. Nothing would make them not vote Tory.For some weird reason I feel like typing "Mark Francois" here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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