AUFC90 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Don't we literally plan and guide the Saudis on how best to blow the shit out of the Yemenis ? I.e we're up to our necks in it ? Nothing really to do with Boris Johnson though as we were happily doing it before he got in and have been happily sooking the boaby of one or the worst regimes in the Middle East for decades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/fd1d35c4-7804-11ea-9840-1b8019d9a987 The Financial Times acknowledging that direct fiscal financing from the central bank QE aka PRINTING MONEY is the only way out of the economic hole the UK (and world) is in. @stricheneryou better write them a letter and get them telt! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: Don't we literally plan and guide the Saudis on how best to blow the shit out of the Yemenis ? I.e we're up to our necks in it ? Nothing really to do with Boris Johnson though as we were happily doing it before he got in and have been happily sooking the boaby of one or the worst regimes in the Middle East for decades. Saudi buys the planes and provides the pilots. The RAF does everything else. It's not Boris's fault individually but as Foreign Secretary he bares responsibility and would be on the end of a rope if Nuremberg principles were applied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, roman_bairn said: I’d also point out that if his thought process was all money and power, to the detriment of welfare of people, we would not find ourselves in lockdown at present. Frankly, I’m getting concerned that you guys are roping me into defending the Tories.... Don’t you remember the herd mentality idea? I suspect we might not be in lockdown like this if it wasn’t for the pressure being put on us from experts in the country and also probably other countries. There are also people crediting the Tories for the economic measures they are taking but I suspect there is a lot of self-preservation in that as well. A collapsed economy harms them as much as anyone. The tenants renting all their other properties can’t pay their rents if they are all unemployed and have no income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: the queen BJ's Not expressions you see close together in normal circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Nothing but respect for the people on this thread who appear to have no politics or interests other than tone policing those who fucking hate the Conservative Party and their ideologically driven punishing austerity programme that they've implemented for the last decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Given that the Tories rely disproportionately on the elderly vote I doubt the strategy is entirely altruistic. Maybe a bit over cynical, but I doubt Stanley was too keen on the early Cummings strategy of let it run rampant and cull the pensioners.Was that genuinely a Cummings strategy? I thought that was the view of our highly esteemed CMO’s?I believe it was only when the Prof. Neil Ferguson Imperial report was provided that showed that it could kill up to 250k if we don’t change course that the strategy was altered..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Nothing but respect for the people on this thread who appear to have no politics or interests other than tone policing those who fucking hate the Conservative Party and their ideologically driven punishing austerity programme that they've implemented for the last decade.I’m actually with you on this but I don’t support those who find it funny that someone is dangerously ill in hospital and hope that he dies for a laugh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I volunteer Gove to go in to shake his hand and pass on our best wishes to him in the next 24hrs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, roman_bairn said: Was that genuinely a Cummings strategy? I thought that was the view of our highly esteemed CMO’s? I believe it was only when the Prof. Neil Ferguson Imperial report was provided that showed that it could kill up to 250k if we don’t change course that the strategy was altered..... Allegedly Cummings said “herd immunity, protect the economy and if that means some pensioners die, too bad”. https://www.thenational.scot/news/18325353.cummings-protect-economy-pensioners-die-too-bad/ https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/03/any-more-government-briefing-games-over-coronavirus-could-be-deadly The government went ahead with "herd immunity" while other countries were starting their lockdown. They were never following WHO guidelines or scientific concensus, they went with the scientists they liked best to suit their ideology. Then the Imperial report came out with a potential massive death figure and they shit themselves. If it was only 100k thye might have done nothing. Remember the government did f**k all. Sport cancelled itself, pubs were only recommended to close, Cheltenham went ahead as usual. Boris was shaking hands in hospital. Culminating in "The science has changed!" was used as cover when it was clear as day the govt was fucking it. And we are going to have the most deaths in Europe by the look of it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Nothing but respect for the people on this thread who appear to have no politics or interests other than tone policing those who fucking hate the Conservative Party and their ideologically driven punishing austerity programme that they've implemented for the last decade. Only punishing the folk not willing to give a bit. SNP anti austerity measures have done what ? Killed Scots by not opening hospitals during a pandemic ? whats their contribution to furloughed workers in Scotland ? Whats their contribution to small business, self employed etc etc. Keep voting SNP, a wasted vote is a Tory vote. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Detournement said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/fd1d35c4-7804-11ea-9840-1b8019d9a987 The Financial Times acknowledging that direct fiscal financing from the central bank QE aka PRINTING MONEY is the only way out of the economic hole the UK (and world) is in. @stricheneryou better write them a letter and get them telt! Here you go again with this shite. Just so we are 100% clear, the UK can print money and buy debt from the private or public sector at will. What is impossible economically is for this to be a zero sum game. I will repeat what I said previously which was that we cannot continually print money with impunity. QE is just kicking the problem down the road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: Only punishing the folk not willing to give a bit. SNP anti austerity measures have done what ? Killed Scots by not opening hospitals during a pandemic ? whats their contribution to furloughed workers in Scotland ? Whats their contribution to small business, self employed etc etc. Keep voting SNP, a wasted vote is a Tory vote. I haven't voted SNP since 2015 lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I see exactly as many decent human beings applauded for him as there are Tories who actually cared about the victims of Grenfell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, ali_91 said: His (and his parties) views and his solutions willingly sacrifice the most vulnerable in society, make it a hostile environment for those not white British and have helped maintain a vast level of deep poverty in the UK. Bloody Tory racists front bench. Never seen so many White Faces etc. Oh! Wait a minute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Good point. It's always worth remembering that you don't need to be white to be a venal sociopath. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 The suspense is killing me. I'm 50/50 on whether he dies or not. He's a fat racist cretin, but whomever takes over if he pops his clogs will likely be worse tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 12 hours ago, ali_91 said: I don’t want him dead, but this is a nonsense. His (and his parties) views and his solutions willingly sacrifice the most vulnerable in society, make it a hostile environment for those not white British and have helped maintain a vast level of deep poverty in the UK. Tories are abhorrent, and we shouldn’t forget that just because he happens to be ill. Boomer. Not 100% sure I got your point, but if it is that no one wants him dead then look back and immediately above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: The suspense is killing me. I'm 50/50 on whether he dies or not. He's a fat racist cretin, but whomever takes over if he pops his clogs will likely be worse tbh. Disappointed to see that Paddy Power don't have a will he snuff it bet going yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Hopefully* the hospital has a psychic shield protecting poor Boris from all these totally serious posters who are willing him to die. Spoiler * not really; f**k the callous p***k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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