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Well done Brox and Bonnyrigg, also to Cuikie who can hold their heads high. If you had said this would be where they were 2 years ago, everyone would have laughed.



But but but juniors but but but devils illumination...

Congrats to everyone who took part in this round successful or not, you have all come on leaps and bounds and expect a few of these teams to be in the SPFL soon.
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Some incredible results, fair play to all the East teams progressing themselves. Absolutely baffling why west teams haven’t vocally came together and really pushed for a west league. Can’t get my head around why we wouldn’t all be pushing as hard as we could to leave this dying setup and actually form a proper pyramid.

Really boosts the case to open up league 2 as well likewise the lowland. 

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Last 24hr illustrates in microcosm what's been achieved.

Last night saw Linlithgow host Falkirk live on TV. Today saw Penicuik take 1,400 fans to Partick (and give fright) while Bonnyrigg + Broxburn reached Scottish Cup R4.

It's about quality, facilities, U20s, professional approach, true - but it's also about opportunities, matches, occasions and these have been outstanding.

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4 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

Absolute fantastic results for the EOSFA. Congratulations everybody 👏

Only a footnote in the wider pandemonium but Broxburn is the first EOSL club to reach R4 since LTHV in 2015-16: great for league.


Here are the sides the Indomitable Badgers can face in R4:

Premiership (12)
Aberdeen, Celtic, Hamilton, Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone, St Mirren

Championship (6)
Alloa, Ayr, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Inverness, Partick

SPFL1 (6)
Airdrie, Clyde, Dumbarton, Falkirk, Raith, Stranraer

SPFL2 (2)
Edinburgh City, Queen's Park

Lowland (3)
Bonnyrigg, BSCG, East Kilbride

tbc (2)
Brora/Morton (Highland/Championship)
Arbroath/Auchinleck (Championship/Junior)

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R3 supports:

#1 ...    1,843 ... Partick fans (v Penicuik)
#2 ...    1,779 ... Bonnyrigg fans (v Montrose)
#3 ...    1,322 ... Penicuik fans (@ Partick)
#4 ... c1,200 ... Raith fans (v Peterhead)
#5 ...    1,120 ... Linlithgow fans (v Falkirk)
etc.


Brilliant stuff.

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33 minutes ago, Skipper said:

A chance of 6 non league sides into the 4th round. Would that be a record ?

As it stands there are guaranteed to be 4 non-league clubs in the Last 32 (being 3 LL and 1 EOSL) which also happened in 2015-16 and 2017-18. However before that you had to return to 1961-62.

Last time there was 5 you have to go back to 1959-60.

Last time there was 6 you have to go back to 1953-54.

However it's worth recalling that, until 1964-65, the Scottish Cup only had 1 round before the Last 32 and all the clubs... non-league and from both divisions of the Scottish League... went into the hat, with about 1/3 of them being given random byes into Last 32. So many of those non-league teams got there without playing...

Nowadays non-league clubs must battle their way through between 2 rounds (BSCG + EK) and 5 rounds (Broxburn) to make Last 32.

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Six R3 ties between league and non-league clubs...

  • The lowest placed of them, Linlithgow got done 4-1 by Falkirk but were only 2-1 down with 12 minutes to go.
  • Full time Partick Thistle beat tier 6 Penicuik 1-0 at home with a first-minute goal.
  • Brora drew away with full time Morton.
  • Auchinleck Talbot drew with the Championship's fifth placed side, Arbroath, who are the highest placed team in R3, and were 6 minutes from a win.
  • Bonnyrigg beat Montrose.
  • BSC Glasgow won away at East Fife, who are 3rd in L1 and ahead of Falkirk.

So two wins, two draws and two defeats. And tier 6 Broxburn beat Inverurie away too. Penicuik, Broxburn and Talbot had all beaten league clubs to get to this stage. If the big west junior clubs were in it too, it'd be carnage.

 

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19 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

As it stands there are guaranteed to be 4 non-league clubs in the Last 32 (being 3 LL and 1 EOSL) which also happened in 2015-16 and 2017-18. However before that you had to return to 1961-62.

Last time there was 5 you have to go back to 1959-60.

Last time there was 6 you have to go back to 1953-54.

However it's worth recalling that, until 1964-65, the Scottish Cup only had 1 round before the Last 32 and all the clubs... non-league and from both divisions of the Scottish League... went into the hat, with about 1/3 of them being given random byes into Last 32. So many of those non-league teams got there without playing...

Nowadays non-league clubs must battle their way through between 2 rounds (BSCG + EK) and 5 rounds (Broxburn) to make Last 32.

Any idea is/when was the last time there was 4 or 5 non-league teams from south of the Highlands? 

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13 minutes ago, GordonS said:

Any idea is/when was the last time there was 4 or 5 non-league teams from south of the Highlands? 

Last time 4 made it was 1953-54. Interestingly they were Coldstream, Duns, Peebles and Tarff: strength has shifted since then!

To get more than 4 was impossible for long spells of time as only 4 progressed from South Qualifying Cup. Without including Forfarshire/Perthshire clubs: the last time 5 made it was 1920-21 when 15 did so as SFL lower division was still suspended after WWI.


Incidentally shameful from ex-golfer and Sky/Guardian sport reporter Ewan Murray who started a twitter argument with Tam McManus and Jim Spence claiming - to paraphrase - "these teams shouldn't be in the cup as their grounds can't host ties against top clubs so they shift them as routine". I must've imagined Penicuik, Linlithgow, and Bonnyrigg (twice) safely hosting 'sell-outs'.

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43 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Last time 4 made it was 1953-54. Interestingly they were Coldstream, Duns, Peebles and Tarff: strength has shifted since then!

To get more than 4 was impossible for long spells of time as only 4 progressed from South Qualifying Cup. Without including Forfarshire/Perthshire clubs: the last time 5 made it was 1920-21 when 15 did so as SFL lower division was still suspended after WWI.


Incidentally shameful from ex-golfer and Sky/Guardian sport reporter Ewan Murray who started a twitter argument with Tam McManus and Jim Spence claiming - to paraphrase - "these teams shouldn't be in the cup as their grounds can't host ties against top clubs so they shift them as routine". I must've imagined Penicuik, Linlithgow, and Bonnyrigg (twice) safely hosting 'sell-outs'.

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Love the bit about complaining about it every year (but hasn't bothered to check the facts this year).

He's presumably thinking of EK v Celtic a couple of years ago. Has there been many other examples in the LL era?

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Ewen Murray is appalling. To be fair, I think his job is basically to report on Scottish football for people who neither know nor care about it, but you'd still think his employers would want someone with at least a demonstrable interest in the topics being covered. His level of knowledge is literally no greater than you would gain by relying completely on Sky Sports for news.

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