paul-r-cfc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Live on Sky Sports at 5.30 so good chance to see he he gets on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Live on Sky Sports at 5.30 so good chance to see he he gets on.He'll stroll it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, accies1874 said: He's surely gonna start? Hard to say, they still have Kovacic and.......I'm forgetting the other one........Jorginho. Good players and senior pros, also sometimes they only play one holding type midfielder, and are playing Fulham who are shite. So I wouldn't say its guaranteed he starts but its possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Fulham were excellent in the second half against Spurs on Wednesday. Have really picked up in the last few weeks so could be a challenging game for Chelsea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, paul-r-cfc said: Fulham were excellent in the second half against Spurs on Wednesday. Have really picked up in the last few weeks so could be a challenging game for Chelsea. Aye but excellent schmexcellent though, Spurs allowed them back in the game by applying the classic Mourinho tactic of curling up into a ball and covering their head after taking the lead, a top side would have stamped their authority on the game and got the second goal. Chelsea should deal with them easily enough or their players have underperformed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hard to say, they still have Kovacic and.......I'm forgetting the other one........Jorginho. Good players and senior pros, also sometimes they only play one holding type midfielder, and are playing Fulham who are shite. So I wouldn't say its guaranteed he starts but its possible.Hopefully bringing on Gilmour ahead of Jorginho in the City game was a sign of things to come - at least in the very, very short term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, accies1874 said: 2 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Hard to say, they still have Kovacic and.......I'm forgetting the other one........Jorginho. Good players and senior pros, also sometimes they only play one holding type midfielder, and are playing Fulham who are shite. So I wouldn't say its guaranteed he starts but its possible. Hopefully bringing on Gilmour ahead of Jorginho in the City game was a sign of things to come - at least in the very, very short term. Aye, I think he's exceptional and will progress very quickly. Its a big ask to dislodge guys like that but he's a wee bit special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessies long lost ghost Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He is not starting today - on the bench though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, nessies long lost ghost said: He is not starting today - on the bench though Disappointing but not particularly surprising. Hopefully he gets on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 If he can't even get a game v 10 man Fulham then he really has to start looking elsewhere. A loan to someone like Hearts would do him the world of good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Disappointing but not particularly surprising. Hopefully he gets on. I agree, but at this point I'd like to see him get a loan for the season. Just to get some experience and push on into the squad. Saying that tho, you read all the time. "He won't get in the squad from Chelsea's bench". But if you actually look at Chelsea's bench they would all get in our squad. The majority walking straight in our team and improving it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, BingMcCrosby said: I agree, but at this point I'd like to see him get a loan for the season. Just to get some experience and push on into the squad. Saying that tho, you read all the time. "He won't get in the squad from Chelsea's bench". But if you actually look at Chelsea's bench they would all get in our squad. The majority walking straight in our team and improving it. Yeah he's in a funny position its easier to get in his national team than his club team. But I think it all might just come too quick for him, he is still only 19 and has played about 16 games of professional football in his life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Yeah he's in a funny position its easier to get in his national team than his club team. But I think it all might just come too quick for him, he is still only 19 and has played about 16 games of professional football in his life. I bow to your superior experience of coming too quick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, BingMcCrosby said: I bow to your superior experience of coming too quick Yer maw's a liar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 16/01/2021 at 23:03, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Yeah he's in a funny position its easier to get in his national team than his club team. I don't think this is an uncommon position nowadays. If you look at the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern, PSG etc. almost every single member of their squad is an international and only 11 can play every week. Giroud isn't a nailed on starter but is likely to still get picked for France and they are the current world cup holders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I don't think this is an uncommon position nowadays. If you look at the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern, PSG etc. almost every single member of their squad is an international and only 11 can play every week. Giroud isn't a nailed on starter but is likely to still get picked for France and they are the current world cup holders.I guess the distinction is that, unlike someone like Giroud, Gilmour doesn't have much of a career behind him on which to justify international selection. Really frustrating.ETA: just noticed he remained on the bench again tonight Vs Leicester. No shame in that but time is limited for him to make a clear case for inclusion in the Euros squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: I guess the distinction is that, unlike someone like Giroud, Gilmour doesn't have much of a career behind him on which to justify international selection. Really frustrating. ETA: just noticed he remained on the bench again tonight Vs Leicester. No shame in that but time is limited for him to make a clear case for inclusion in the Euros squad. Aye he needs to establish himself first. Its totally different to someone like Giroud who is an established player. He can only do that by playing club games, but, ironically, its harder to get into his club team than his national team. I said a while back I think the Euros will come a wee bit soon for him most likely, which is a shame but hey ho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Several months ago I said he needed a loan deal for at least this season. I'm still of that opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 22 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Aye he needs to establish himself first. Its totally different to someone like Giroud who is an established player. He can only do that by playing club games, but, ironically, its harder to get into his club team than his national team. I said a while back I think the Euros will come a wee bit soon for him most likely, which is a shame but hey ho. It's not He's never been selected for one of our full squads, only u21s As you correctly say, as not an established player, and getting no game time. He has no chance of the manager calling him up -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Starts today against Luton in the cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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