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This sounds like Trump-level revisionism lol, aren't putting up bonds for arbitration a basic standard? Amateur doesn't even cover it.

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13 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

This sounds like Trump-level revisionism lol, aren't putting up bonds for arbitration a basic standard? Amateur doesn't even cover it.

They didn't know how many goalkeepers they had registered. 

How were they supposed to know that this appeal process they started weeks/months ago would require a bond until the week it started 😂😂😂

 

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Obviously Fort never had any intention to go through with an appeal (just like the playoff) given there were absolutely no grounds. Of course there was going to be a bond to be lodged, they must've known this. Just another attempt to spin this as the big bad Scottish football authorities having it in for plucky wee Fort William.

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This has all been so they can cover up how incompetent the club is by blaming the Highland League then the SFA.

An utter joke of a club. It’s the NCL I feel sorry for now, having to deal with their shite.

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https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/4453509/fort-william-chairman-disappointed-after-relegation-appeal-was-dismissed/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

“We’re baffled as to how the game has got to a point where it could cost somewhere in the region of £30,000 for someone to read the rulebook.”

“Nobody will ever know whether the rules are broken or not because the case wasn’t heard."

I'm sure the rates for someone on here to read the rulebook are much cheaper, but they would still get the same answer :lol:

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18 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

If FitbaNorth is to be believed the sum involved was £30,000.

Not to "defend" Fort William in any way but that does seem like a large sum for the level of football. Obviously they were aware of this figure for a while and suddenly decided to bring it up at the end so they can pretend they were harshly treated again rather than just admitting they were in the wrong but it still seems a fair whack.

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1 minute ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Not to "defend" Fort William in any way but that does seem like a large sum for the level of football.

And this is an extreme example. It's not like they're trying to appeal a red card along with a half a dozen other instances from a weekend's football.

 

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10 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Not to "defend" Fort William in any way but that does seem like a large sum for the level of football. Obviously they were aware of this figure for a while and suddenly decided to bring it up at the end so they can pretend they were harshly treated again rather than just admitting they were in the wrong but it still seems a fair whack.

They demanded a judicial panel which is made up of 3 lawyers, then whoever the parties hire to represent them, they don't come cheap. If they'd just asked the SFA for emergency permission to use their late signed keeper they would probably have got it, I doubt B o'D would have objected. When they pulled out of the play off they lost all rights imo. It's worth remembering the original statement from the Highland League.

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Highland Pyramid Playoff Cancelled - SHFL Statement
 ‘The Highland League is extremely disappointed to have been informed by Fort William FC that the club is to withdraw from the Highland Football Pyramid playoff matches versus Banks o’Dee FC.

The League has been engaged in discussions with Fort William FC during the course of this week and these discussions have centred on two issues.

The first, and most significant, relates to player eligibility to take part in the playoffs.

Competition rules were published in July 2021 and state clearly that, to be eligible to take part in the playoffs, a player must be registered by the club by 31st January. In the case of Fort William FC, three of the twelve players who took part in the Breedon Highland League match at Rothes on Tuesday 19th April 2022 were therefore ineligible for the playoffs.

Central to this is the fact that the club’s first choice goalkeeper had returned home to Poland and his replacement was registered on 31st March 2022. This meant that the club felt it did not have enough goalkeepers for the playoffs as well as having few outfield players. So, on Wednesday 20th April 2022, it requested dispensation to play all three players in the playoffs.

Research by the League’s Secretariat uncovered the fact that Fort William FC had at that date 5 players registered who were described as goalkeepers. Consequently, the League’s Office Bearers declined dispensation for all three players and the club was informed accordingly.

During the course of Thursday and Friday, discussions continued and the club then submitted a second request for dispensation with regard to the goalkeeper signed on 31st March 2022. Research by the League’s Secretariat indicated that one of the goalkeepers had been deregistered but four remained on the books so the request for dispensation was denied.

Subsequent discussions with the manager led to the conclusion that club personnel were unaware of the existence of one of the two remaining goalkeepers. The Secretary suggested that this needed checking out. The League was then informed that it appears that this person was unknown to club management and is a member of the armed forces currently away on duty. This had not been included in the second request for dispensation.

The second issue relates to the condition of Claggan Park. It had been decided that, given the events of the season, a pitch and ground inspection should take place to confirm it as a venue for the second leg of the playoffs. That inspection was carried out by a representative of the League who is also a retired referee on the morning of Friday 22nd April and raised some concerns. The Club was informed of these concerns and advised of a way ahead. It was recommended that the club roll the pitch, cut the grass and line it as if for a match, and a further inspection would be undertaken on Tuesday 26th April and all concerned were optimistic about a positive outcome. In discussions, it was apparent that the club was reluctant to accept that advice.

Discussions continued throughout Friday and were effectively closed by Fort William FC when it decided to withdraw from the playoffs.’

Statement ends

And Fort William's response.

 

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29 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

They demanded a judicial panel which is made up of 3 lawyers, then whoever the parties hire to represent them, they don't come cheap.

Seen some people and try and say it shouldn't be that expensive since they're just looking at rulebook.

Except as pointed out by the Chairman they withdrew before breaking any rules. Not entirely sure what they were appealing but it would have wade into the emails and witness testimonies. Even if the appeal was to be thrown out as frivolous. All of that information would have to be reviewed, investigated, and debated by the tribunal.

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Just now, FairWeatherFan said:

Seen some people and try and say it shouldn't be that expensive since they're just looking at rulebook.

Except as pointed out by the Chairman they withdrew before breaking any rules. Not entirely sure what they were appealing but it would have wade into the emails and witness testimonies. Even if the appeal was to be thrown out as frivolous. All of that information would have to be reviewed, investigated, and debated by the tribunal.

Fort said they'd been talking to the SFA for weeks before demanding a judicial panel, presumably that involved someone looking at the rulebook and telling them they didn't have a leg to stand on. It was all a stunt for their FB followers imo, they never intended to stake any money on such a poor case. They should be forced to pay compensation for preparatory costs incurred by the SFA and HL, as well as the booked out hospitality at Banks O'Dee.

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