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Lowland Trapdoorwatch 2019-20


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21 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Civil Service Strollers 1-0 Gretna 2008
Cumbernauld Colts 7-1 Vale of Leithen
East Stirlingshire 6-1 Dalbeattie Star
Edinburgh University 2-5 The Spartans

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Another round of defeats for the bottom four. Gretna 2008 at least kept it tight. Possibly bodes well for next week's game against Edinburgh University.

Decent chance that none of this muck will go down? 

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17 minutes ago, stanley said:

Sadly yes.  Rewarding mediocrity rather than promoting an extra club.

The extra club in this case would surely be Threave Rovers (as SoS champion / play-off loser) so that wouldn't really be an improvement. What they'd be better doing is relegating 16th and inviting applications for the vacancy.

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Just now, Ginaro said:

The extra club in this case would surely be Threave Rovers (as SoS champion / play-off loser) so that wouldn't really be an improvement. What they'd be better doing is relegating 16th and inviting applications for the vacancy.

Yes, the system in general needs sorted out.  EoS being on an equal level with SoS and equal promotion chances is very flawed as is the relegation system.

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15 hours ago, selfassemblyshire said:
21 hours ago, stanley said:
It will be absolutely ridiculous if no side is relegated this season.  They need to find a better promotion/relegation system as you're likely to have four teams miles behind the other twelve and possibly none getting relegated.

Correct. Get VoL or Dalbeattie to f**k please

Maybe they should relegate  clubs that don't have there own ground !!!

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On 18/01/2020 at 18:41, surely not! said:

Imagine it’s very rare for a league anywhere to have four teams with such a low points total after so many games of a league season.

 

On 18/01/2020 at 18:58, HibeeJibee said:

HL bottom 4 (after 22/22/22/15 games) = 13pts, 12pts, 10pts, 6pts.

EOSL First Division conferences = 19pts, 10pts, 8pts, 2pts & 13pts, 11pts, 9pts, 9pts.

SOSL = 13pts, 11pts, 10pts, 10pts.

Tempting fate there, @surely not!

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1 hour ago, Marshmallo said:

Decent chance that none of this muck will go down? 

There is a chance: it's possible if LL champion goes up and whoever come down from SPFL2 goes into HL. So you would be talking Kelty up/Brechin down - as it stands right now. It hasn't happened before incidentally (indeed scenario hasn't been possible before: even when Montrose finished bottom Brora made the Final).

It seems unlikely neither EOSL or SOSL champion will be eligible to come up, so no need to consider a reprieve originating from matters below.

If you'll expect Bo'ness to beat Threave - again this is as it stands right now - considering Kelty beat them 10-0 on aggregate 2 years ago, then using the EOSL model of extra promotion (i.e. both champions up) couldn't be much help anyway: is Threave any stronger than Edinburgh Uni/Dalbeattie/Gretna/Vale/etc.?

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3 hours ago, Marshmallo said:

Decent chance that none of this muck will go down? 

 

2 hours ago, stanley said:

Yes, the system in general needs sorted out.  EoS being on an equal level with SoS and equal promotion chances is very flawed as is the relegation system.

You may or may not have points but meanwhile in the Highlands the bottom club remains bottom and gets access to round 1 of the Scottish Cup every season. Why criticise the LL teams when theres "muck" in the HFL season after season wi nowt getting done aboot that :whistle

 

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12 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

 

You may or may not have points but meanwhile in the Highlands the bottom club remains bottom and gets access to round 1 of the Scottish Cup every season. Why criticise the LL teams when theres "muck" in the HFL season after season wi nowt getting done aboot that :whistle

 

Because there isn't a league below it with much stronger teams you thick tit

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6 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Because there isn't a league below it with much stronger teams you thick tit

😂

Reverting to abuse as well as red dots now.  😂

Maybes you'll get a proper pyramid once "stronger" teams from the West and a league below the HFL is formed.

You certainly have it in for me,love to you and yours Marshy 👍

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3 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

 

You may or may not have points but meanwhile in the Highlands the bottom club remains bottom and gets access to round 1 of the Scottish Cup every season. Why criticise the LL teams when theres "muck" in the HFL season after season wi nowt getting done aboot that :whistle

 

I really don't like this attitude of "other leagues do things badly so we can keep doing things badly too".  If everyone acts like that then there will never be progress.  It seems like a typical Scottish football attitude.  The Lowland League should not (and I doubt they do) base their future changes on what the Highland League is doing.  

People want to see progress with the pyramid.  Progress means leagues opening up more and there being more promotion/relegation spots from the SPFL and from the HL/LL.  The EoS has consistently been an amazing example of what a league can do.  From having conferences when many juniors joined the league to having numerous relegation spots from the EoS Premier.  Their lack of self-preservation should be the example to all the other leagues rather than saying "Well, the Highland League are crap at this so we shouldn't change".

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3 hours ago, Marshmallo said:

Because there isn't a league below it with much stronger teams you thick tit

IMO the Highland League should not be made part of the Pyramid until they had relegation from their League in place.

All win for them, no lose.

 

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Maybe they should relegate  clubs that don't have there own ground !!!
Ah, there it's. Maybe teams who are utter guff, regardless of the level, should be relegated.

Going back to the Whitehill palava last year then surely bottom is relegated regardless, even when Bonnyrigg or Kelty pump Brechin.
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10 minutes ago, selfassemblyshire said:

Ah, there it's. Maybe teams who are utter guff, regardless of the level, should be relegated.

Going back to the Whitehill palava last year then surely bottom is relegated regardless, even when Bonnyrigg or Kelty pump Brechin.

Dont think anything has been learnt from last season Selfy. 

Theres clubs pushing for promotion from the EOSFL that aren't licensed (as yet). This is an issue that should be sorted before a ball is kicked pre season. 

22 minutes ago, sureiknow said:

IMO the Highland League should not be made part of the Pyramid until they had relegation from their League in place.

All win for them, no lose.

 

Careful mate Marshy will be on your case. Yer not allowed a difference of opinion from him on here otherwise he tries to hound ye off the forum. :thumsup2

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52 minutes ago, sureiknow said:

IMO the Highland League should not be made part of the Pyramid until they had relegation from their League in place.

All win for them, no lose.

 

What are they supposed to do if up until now none of the leagues below them wanted to be part of the pyramid. 

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4 hours ago, Marshmallo said:

Because there isn't a league below it with much stronger teams you thick tit

If anyone is depressed with there teams performance at the weekend or just down in general. Just think at least your not marshmallo and live will look so much better

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