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The Lowland League have updated their rules and regulations ahead of the 2019-20 season. Following last year's experience they've put some thought into the relegation scenarios that could come up going forward.

The changes lead to certain situations where there maybe no relegation in a given year. Clubs will be hoping the Lowland League champion wins promotion and Elgin/Cove/Brechin are relegated from the SPFL.

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4 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The Lowland League have updated their rules and regulations ahead of the 2019-20 season. Following last year's experience they've put some thought into the relegation scenarios that could come up going forward.

The changes lead to certain situations where there maybe no relegation in a given year. Clubs will be hoping the Lowland League champion wins promotion and Elgin/Cove/Brechin are relegated from the SPFL.

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I would assume this means relegation will be staying at 1 club for next season at least?

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7 minutes ago, pipedreamer said:

I would assume this means relegation will be staying at 1 club for next season at least?

There isn't going to be a change to the LL playoff (EoS v. SoS) until there is some agreement around the PWG proceedings.

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16 minutes ago, pipedreamer said:

I would assume this means relegation will be staying at 1 club for next season at least?

Doubt it's going to change to 2 until the west come on board so that you can have two feeders and automatic promotion from both.

And for this season it's basically automatic promotion for the EoS winner anyway, as it's highly likely they will be licensed (8/16 currently, with Tranent just needing lights plus Bo'ness and Newtongrange probably close).

Only thing the LL should've done would be to relegate 16th even if no licensed champion, and have them re-apply for the position along with other clubs.

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3 minutes ago, edinabear said:

Pretty embarrassing only having 1 relegation place from a 16 team league

Pretty embarrassing having no relegation from the HFL and clubs from the west still not interested.

 

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19 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Pretty embarrassing having no relegation from the HFL and clubs from the west still not interested.

 

There's no feeder below the HFL, hard to relegate anybody in that scenario.

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21 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

There's no feeder below the HFL, hard to relegate anybody in that scenario.

Yip a rather steep sided out of shaped pyramid one would think.

Until then though......

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12 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Doubt it's going to change to 2 until the west come on board so that you can have two feeders and automatic promotion from both.

And for this season it's basically automatic promotion for the EoS winner anyway, as it's highly likely they will be licensed (8/16 currently, with Tranent just needing lights plus Bo'ness and Newtongrange probably close).

Only thing the LL should've done would be to relegate 16th even if no licensed champion, and have them re-apply for the position along with other clubs.

We also only need lights

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43 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

We also only need lights

True, though Tranent have started work on the trenches and applied for planning permission so I'd say are likely to have a licence by the end of March - don't know if that's the case for Camelon.

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Camelon and Tranent are both working towards lighting. Bo'ness are presumably looking at licensing once their groundwork is completed.

That leaves Crossgates, Dunbar, Musselburgh, Newtongrange and Sauchie. With the possible exception of Musselburgh they seem to be tipped for the lower end not the title.

As such it looks fairly hard for the EOSL champion not to be promoted: they would either have to not be licensed, or else lose to SOSL champion over 2 legs (assuming of course they were even licensed: this season the highest placed such club was Threave who finished 9th). Kelty beat Threave 10-0 on aggregate last year and cup results nod towards a similar dominance.

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3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

As such it looks fairly hard for the EOSL champion not to be promoted: they would either have to not be licensed, or else lose to SOSL champion over 2 legs (assuming of course they were even licensed: this season the highest placed such club was Threave who finished 9th). Kelty beat Threave 10-0 on aggregate last year and cup results nod towards a similar dominance.

Plus, 2nd place Bonnyton were beaten 3-0 by Camelon and 3-2 by now First Division Preston, so even if they got a licence (still don't think they have cover?) and won the SoS it would still be very unlikely they'd beat the EoS champions.

Suppose we'll see how the SoS teams get on in their 13 games against EoS/LL opposition in the South Challenge Cup...

Edited by Ginaro

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2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Camelon and Tranent are both working towards lighting. Bo'ness are presumably looking at licensing once their groundwork is completed.

That leaves Crossgates, Dunbar, Musselburgh, Newtongrange and Sauchie. With the possible exception of Musselburgh they seem to be tipped for the lower end not the title.

As such it looks fairly hard for the EOSL champion not to be promoted: they would either have to not be licensed, or else lose to SOSL champion over 2 legs (assuming of course they were even licensed: this season the highest placed such club was Threave who finished 9th). Kelty beat Threave 10-0 on aggregate last year and cup results nod towards a similar dominance.

Dunipace (tier 7) look like they are intending to get licensed but, although they have floodlights, they don't have any cover at the moment and will have to screen off the boundary for parts of the ground.

Edited by Footballfirst

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12 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Dunipace look like they are intending to get licensed but, although they have floodlights, they don't have any cover at the moment and will have to screen off the boundary for parts of the ground.

True enough. Other clubs like Haddington and St Andrews are also involved in the process... However for the purposes of this question these clubs are playing in the plural conferences of the EOSL First Division in the coming campaign, therefore unable to win promotion to LL for the following season regardless of licence.

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15 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

Pretty embarrassing having no relegation from the HFL and clubs from the west still not interested.

 

Also true

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9 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Plus, 2nd place Bonnyton were beaten 3-0 by Camelon and 3-2 by now First Division Preston, so even if they got a licence (still don't think they have cover?) and won the SoS it would still be very unlikely they'd beat the EoS champions.

Suppose we'll see how the SoS teams get on in their 13 games against EoS/LL opposition in the South Challenge Cup...

We beat them 4-0 they were a good young side and capable of improving. Took us 40 mins for us to break them down

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Dunipace (tier 7) look like they are intending to get licensed but, although they have floodlights, they don't have any cover at the moment and will have to screen off the boundary for parts of the ground.
Dunipace have a stand, currently being stored off site awaiting approval from the local authority for its inclusion in the ground. Screen fencing is already at the park awaiting being installed. New toilet blocks are being installed in the next week (licence compatible) and the internal changing rooms (home and away) have had their work done to achieve the licence criteria. All the other rooms required are also available (medical room etc).

In essence we are progressing well and should hopefully be in a position in the next couple of months to be audited and gain our licence.

The hardworking committee and sponsors should be rightly proud of where the club is right now and deserve immense credit for their continual push to keep the club progressing.

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On 24/06/2019 at 22:41, Ginaro said:

Plus, 2nd place Bonnyton were beaten 3-0 by Camelon and 3-2 by now First Division Preston, so even if they got a licence (still don't think they have cover?) and won the SoS it would still be very unlikely they'd beat the EoS champions.

Suppose we'll see how the SoS teams get on in their 13 games against EoS/LL opposition in the South Challenge Cup...

Don' think many, if any, of the South teams fancy promotion anyway...enjoy their comfort zone.

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Weak start by Gretna, Vale Of Leithen, Edinburgh University and Dalbeattie Star. No surprise, as most would have predicted the four to finish last. I think Linlithgow Rose, Penicuik, Bo’ness and Broxburn are all stronger than these four teams (same with the top west junior sides). So it’s going to be tough to stay up the next few years.

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Don't know if I actually posted it, but was thinking before the season that the relegation battle will be between the clubs south of East Kilbride (though Gala are confounding expectations).

Wonder if Gretna would go to the East or South if they are relegated?

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