Jason King Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Since Dunipace moved onto the Senior game the West region has been plodding along with 63 clubs which obviously in a 4x16 setup means there is a league which is a team short - so to cut a long story short, if the East can attract four new clubs into a crumbling structure why cant the West seemingly attract clubs into the strongest Junior league in the country? Are there no ammies or sports clubs out there who fancy there chances of taking their club further in Scottish football? Aside from that chancer who keeps claiming that Baillieston will be back "next season" there doesn't seem to be any chatter about anyone taking an interest in going West so should the West Region be actively looking for new members for next season or should they allow the leagues to run at 63? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 There was rumours of Stonehouse Violet being revived by an ammie team in the area but hasn't came to anything yet. Also complicated by fact Royal Albert now use Violet's old ground which would take a beating with two clubs playing on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referee021 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason King said: Since Dunipace moved onto the Senior game the West region has been plodding along with 63 clubs which obviously in a 4x16 setup means there is a league which is a team short - so to cut a long story short, if the East can attract four new clubs into a crumbling structure why cant the West seemingly attract clubs into the strongest Junior league in the country? Are there no ammies or sports clubs out there who fancy there chances of taking their club further in Scottish football? Aside from that chancer who keeps claiming that Baillieston will be back "next season" there doesn't seem to be any chatter about anyone taking an interest in going West so should the West Region be actively looking for new members for next season or should they allow the leagues to run at 63? It’s not a “crumbling structure”. It’s been in existence since 1886 and will continue to be many years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason King said: Are there no ammies or sports clubs out there who fancy there chances of taking their club further in Scottish football? Would travel be a concern since the move to regionwide divisions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason King said: Since Dunipace moved onto the Senior game the West region has been plodding along with 63 clubs which obviously in a 4x16 setup means there is a league which is a team short - so to cut a long story short, if the East can attract four new clubs into a crumbling structure why cant the West seemingly attract clubs into the strongest Junior league in the country? Are there no ammies or sports clubs out there who fancy there chances of taking their club further in Scottish football? Aside from that chancer who keeps claiming that Baillieston will be back "next season" there doesn't seem to be any chatter about anyone taking an interest in going West so should the West Region be actively looking for new members for next season or should they allow the leagues to run at 63? BSC Glasgow wanted to put a ‘reserve’ side in the West junior setup a few years back. They were knocked back, which is funny considering the East Juniors have now admitted 3 ‘reserve’ teams in linlithgow, Bo’ness & Sauchie and a boys club with no fan base in Syngenta who are ground sharing with an EoS team. Remember Clydebank were told they couldn’t use a Junior ground as a groundshare if they left the juniors... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Referee021 said: It’s not a “crumbling structure”. It’s been in existence since 1886 and will continue to be many years from now. YMMV but for me 30 or so clubs leaving over the last 3 years would tend to suggest that the East Region is indeed crumbling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 ...and I was quite clearly talking about the East in relation to crumbling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, pipedreamer said: BSC Glasgow wanted to put a ‘reserve’ side in the West junior setup a few years back. They were knocked back, which is funny considering the East Juniors have now admitted 3 ‘reserve’ teams in linlithgow, Bo’ness & Sauchie and a boys club with no fan base in Syngenta who are ground sharing with an EoS team. Remember Clydebank were told they couldn’t use a Junior ground as a groundshare if they left the juniors... Tom Johnston hates us though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Don't take it personally, everyone hates you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthurlie1981 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Since Dunipace moved onto the Senior game the West region has been plodding along with 63 clubs which obviously in a 4x16 setup means there is a league which is a team short - so to cut a long story short, if the East can attract four new clubs into a crumbling structure why cant the West seemingly attract clubs into the strongest Junior league in the country? Are there no ammies or sports clubs out there who fancy there chances of taking their club further in Scottish football? Aside from that chancer who keeps claiming that Baillieston will be back "next season" there doesn't seem to be any chatter about anyone taking an interest in going West so should the West Region be actively looking for new members for next season or should they allow the leagues to run at 63?I know of a club who approached to join but decided against due to a variety of factors. There have been 2 new clubs admitted in the last 7 years with 2 leaving in that time. Honest question how many amateur clubs have got grounds that are enclosed along with their changing rooms? I can’t think of many tbh but my knowledge of the grade isn’t great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Since the changes to the Central/Ayrshire setup 16 years ago - Dunipace and Stonehouse have left the Juniors and Clydebank, Gartcairn, Girvan and Rossvale have become Junior teams. Have we reached peak Junior for the modern age? Why would a club like Bonnyton join the SoS instead of the Junior setup - what made that a more attractive proposition? Just pondering what the West Region are doing in their attempts to market the game and broaden the base. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I know of a club who approached to join but decided against due to a variety of factors. There have been 2 new clubs admitted in the last 7 years with 2 leaving in that time. Honest question how many amateur clubs have got grounds that are enclosed along with their changing rooms? I can’t think of many tbh but my knowledge of the grade isn’t great. Glenhead Park is home of Drumchapelammies & is enclosed as far as I can see. Clydebank used it between 2004-2008.I believe Dalziel Park used by Colville Park & Dalziel HSFP is enclosed also but I may be wrong on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 It’s not a “crumbling structure”. It’s been in existence since 1886 and will continue to be many years from now.The current East of Scotland Junior Football Association has existed from 1896, not 1886. The structure itself has went through many major changes since then, particularly 1922 and 2002. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 EOS Junior Football Association sole purpose would have been to organise EOS cup which at the time was open to teams all the way up to Dundee (and surrounding area). Teams north of the Tay didn't last long though,(maybe to far to travel?)possibly ten years? Fife teams entered to 1919/20 season.Yip the big change was 1922 when the ESJFA brought all leagues under their control in the Lothians and Borders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthurlie1981 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Glenhead Park is home of Drumchapelammies & is enclosed as far as I can see. Clydebank used it between 2004-2008.I believe Dalziel Park used by Colville Park & Dalziel HSFP is enclosed also but I may be wrong on that.Glenhead was one I thought of. Is Colville’s ground next to the rugby club? Haven’t been out there for a while and think it might need some minor changes.Im not sure there are many more clubs out there who want to join junior football in the west as they will need to make ground improvements and if they don’t own them they might not be allowed to make the changes. That is what happened to the club I know were interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Jason King said: Since the changes to the Central/Ayrshire setup 16 years ago - Dunipace and Stonehouse have left the Juniors and Clydebank, Gartcairn, Girvan and Rossvale have become Junior teams. Have we reached peak Junior for the modern age? Why would a club like Bonnyton join the SoS instead of the Junior setup - what made that a more attractive proposition? Just pondering what the West Region are doing in their attempts to market the game and broaden the base. The ability to work towards licensing and Scottish cup participation along with the prospect of competing to enter the Lowland League. Ability to run an u20’s side and seamless transition between the two teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 If there hadn't been an influx of clubs to the EoS then Bonnyton would've had a good chance of winning the South & East Cup Winners Shield last year for a place in this season's Scottish Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Jason King said: YMMV but for me 30 or so clubs leaving over the last 3 years would tend to suggest that the East Region is indeed crumbling. What does YMMV mean ? Serious question...hope it's not something rude, now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Black Pennel said: What does YMMV mean ? Serious question...hope it's not something rude, now... Your Mileage May Vary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinto Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I have felt for a very long time that Junior Football is several decades past its sell by date. It was good in its time but now a back stream to the real world of football. In respect to Benburb I would love them to join the pyramid outside the Junior Football. With Govan re-populating there is scope for decent standard non league teams to participate in meaningful fixtures. This could be achieved if they got them selves out of the Juniors and aspired to better things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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