Burnie_man Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 As I keep saying, each region requires a different solution.How about the HL indicating they are going to 2 x 12 in two seasons time (ie tier 5 and 6), they therefore have 5 vacancies and ask for applications. Tier 6 doesnt require a licence therefore it may encourage Junior clubs to apply, with priority given to BoD and Golspie as licence holders. It may also interest the likes of Broughty or Lochee.It may also encourage the NRJFA to link up as they would feed into a tier 6 league, not straight into tier 5 HL requiring a licence. Champion promoted, bottom of tier 6 relegated.It also opens up the opportunity to sort the Tayside issue.Someone needs to grasp the nettle and come up with workable suggestions and solutions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 23 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: In seriously considering the ICT colts, I think it also shows the idea that you have to already have your SFA license before you apply isn't true... ICT are licensed, so not sure that holds up to scrutiny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: ICT are licensed, so not sure that holds up to scrutiny. Reserve teams can’t play in a league under the “professional game board” within the current rules. To admit ICT would set a precedent and would need the rules changed as Rangers and Celtic would be next to try and force their way into the LL or a west feeder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Certainly true of the LL, but the HL appear to have neglected to put that into their constitution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Certainly true of the LL, but the HL appear to have neglected to put that into their constitution. Given that Stranraer weren’t eligible for promotion from the SoSL and Stirling Uni EOS cannot be promoted from the EoSL, I suspect there would have been some issues with the HFL if they had admitted a reserve team, dare I say it could have ended up with the HFL champion not being eligible for the league 2 playoff match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, pipedreamer said: Given that Stranraer weren’t eligible for promotion from the SoSL and Stirling Uni EOS cannot be promoted from the EoSL, I suspect there would have been some issues with the HFL if they had admitted a reserve team, dare I say it could have ended up with the HFL champion not being eligible for the league 2 playoff match. I believe that would have been the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, pipedreamer said: Given that Stranraer weren’t eligible for promotion from the SoSL and Stirling Uni EOS cannot be promoted from the EoSL, I suspect there would have been some issues with the HFL if they had admitted a reserve team, dare I say it could have ended up with the HFL champion not being eligible for the league 2 playoff match. The Lowland League has a specific rule for their membership that does not allow for more than one team in a league represented by the SFA's Professional Game Board (SPFL, Lowland and Highland). It's the only league that has something as specific as that. Most just say Full Membership of the SFA and other caveats. So it's murky if you class a 2nd XI as being a Full Member as far as i'm concerned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 HL is quite happy with the status quo they have now. Don’t think there are any clubs now in HL with any ambition to join the SFL. There is no appetite with member clubs for reconstruction unless forced on them by SFL. I think it will be a number of years before you see another HL club promoted unless by accident! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Thom & Gerry said: HL is quite happy with the status quo they have now. Don’t think there are any clubs now in HL with any ambition to join the SFL. There is no appetite with member clubs for reconstruction unless forced on them by SFL. I think it will be a number of years before you see another HL club promoted unless by accident! Winning a league championship and rounds of playoffs is hardly going to be an accident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 They all want to be winning the league but play off games that is the problem. By accident I mean winning play offs when they don’t really want to but also want to avoid allegation that they didn’t try to hard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 20 hours ago, Thom & Gerry said: They all want to be winning the league but play off games that is the problem. By accident I mean winning play offs when they don’t really want to but also want to avoid allegation that they didn’t try to hard. A bit like Elgin never getting out of league 2 then !!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Aye we’ve got that down to a fine art. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Thought this would be the best fit in the Lowland League forum going by topic titles. CSS have started their work on getting floodlights installed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Always good to get the kids involved 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 There isn't an obvious Lowland pyramid thread and this is actually more about the past than the future. Came across this tweet from Heston Rovers back in November 2012 that suggests the SFA were out stumping for a pyramid system of some description. This is a little earlier than the March 2013 PWG review that said meetings were held in December and January. There's the narrative around the formation of the Lowland League that it was created in the span of 6 weeks or so and rushed through for the 2013-14 season. Yet it seems to have had quite a bit of work in advance of it. When exactly did the idea of a Lowland League gain traction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 There isn't an obvious Lowland pyramid thread and this is actually more about the past than the future. Came across this tweet from Heston Rovers back in November 2012 that suggests the SFA were out stumping for a pyramid system of some description. This is a little earlier than the March 2013 PWG review that said meetings were held in December and January. There's the narrative around the formation of the Lowland League that it was created in the span of 6 weeks or so and rushed through for the 2013-14 season. Yet it seems to have had quite a bit of work in advance of it. When exactly did the idea of a Lowland League gain traction?Think there was talk on here from the September/October 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 “ Lowland league 2” East and West Divisions seems a sensible option for me as it would settle the South at tier 6 but being too weak to compete and two East overlapping divisions so it’ll never happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: There isn't an obvious Lowland pyramid thread and this is actually more about the past than the future. Came across this tweet from Heston Rovers back in November 2012 that suggests the SFA were out stumping for a pyramid system of some description. This is a little earlier than the March 2013 PWG review that said meetings were held in December and January. There's the narrative around the formation of the Lowland League that it was created in the span of 6 weeks or so and rushed through for the 2013-14 season. Yet it seems to have had quite a bit of work in advance of it. When exactly did the idea of a Lowland League gain traction? 20 hours ago, parsforlife said: Think there was talk on here from the September/October 2012. There was serious talk of the pyramid and indeed Lowland League before that. For example in November 2011 it was revealed that SFA was consulting over 10 or 12-team Highland and Lowland Regional Leagues from 2014-15 under which HL, EOSL, SOSL and any new leagues could sit. Broader discussions preceded that. So by late 2011 several key aspects of what would develop were already on the table - including 2 regions below SFL3 (as it was then), termed Highland and Lowland, club licensing as a criteria, and indeed that HRL would extend "from Dundee". Search shows FitbaNorth first featured word 'Lowland' on 21st November 2011 in a thread called "Has time come for HL to split?" later renamed "New Highland Division in pyramid?": http://www.fitbanorth.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3238 HL then petitioned to be the feeder in their own right (vote for joining pyramid was 16 for/1 against: Buckie opposed and Cove absent IIRC). LL formed in 2013-14 on the basis of a gradual increase from 12 to 16... that occurred same time as SPL & SFL merged. Promotion into SPFL2 went live from 2014-15 which was also when EOSL & SOSL joined pyramid, with promotion to LL similarly going live from 2015-16. Edited December 31, 2019 by HibeeJibee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelheart Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Think if teams from west jump ship it’s going to have to probably go to a set up like the English national leagues with one premier feeding into football league and regional leagues feeding into premier but who knows ?? Happy New year to all when it comes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: There was serious talk of the pyramid and indeed Lowland League before that. For example in November 2011 it was revealed that SFA was consulting over 10 or 12-team Highland and Lowland Regional Leagues from 2014-15 under which HL, EOSL, SOSL and any new leagues could sit. Broader discussions preceded that. So by late 2011 several key aspects of what would develop were already on the table - including 2 regions below SFL3 (as it was then), termed Highland and Lowland, club licensing as a criteria, and indeed that HRL would extend "from Dundee". Search shows FitbaNorth first featured word 'Lowland' on 21st November 2011 in a thread called "Has time come for HL to split?" later renamed "New Highland Division in pyramid?": http://www.fitbanorth.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3238 HL then petitioned to be the feeder in their own right (vote for joining pyramid was 16 for/1 against: Buckie opposed and Cove absent IIRC). LL formed in 2013-14 on the basis of a gradual increase from 12 to 16... that occurred same time as SPL & SFL merged. Promotion into SPFL2 went live from 2014-15 which was also when EOSL & SOSL joined pyramid, with promotion to LL similarly going live from 2015-16. Giving this thread a quick skim. Something of note considering the past year would be that Floodlights were apparently a part of Entry level licensing originally. EDIT: And add that this wasn't just a misunderstanding of the licensing criteria. Edited December 31, 2019 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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