ayrmad Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The worst thing about tonight is all those young girls lost to football after that capitulation, this could have been a huge night in encouraging young females to take up football. Shelley Kerr needs punted after her disastrous showing during this tournament, we've never had a manager of the mens side with such a shitty subservient wee team happy to be there mentality. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Binos said: Anything is on the table when it comes to Scotland bottling They did not bottle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Did we really blow this due to lack of confidence in ourselves though? Players looked shellshocked, then it was heads-gone - not like they expected it. Poor game management to be 3-0 up and cruising then screw-it-up. I'm not saying that was the reason for tonight's result but just in general that is how the majority of people in Scotland live their life. When this was first brought to my attention I was told to accept any compliments without trying to dumb down whatever it was that had resulted in the compliment. Since then I've found I generally feel a bit better about myself. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: I disagree. If it takes a full 8 minutes to make a decision and carry out the resulting award when it should have taken two at the very most, it's not effective at all. Especially when that 8 minutes does not then get added on at the other end. If this is the way forward, then they HAVE to pause the clock for VAR decisions until the point where play is restarted again. That is the only way it will ever be effective or approach efficient. But the point is VAR worked effectively, it got the big decisions right. You’re talking about the application of it, which still needs work. I don’t like VAR one bit but tonight wasn’t some VAR disaster - no worse than the rest of the time it’s used. Had England been knocked out in such circumstances this place would be full of people laughing their cocks (sic) off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: 14.3 The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line when the kick is taken; cannot stand behind the line. yip and she wasn't, I hate this rule, absolute hate it but they wont change it. The only way for a keeper to have any chance is to move side to side on the white line, a change to every goalkeeping coaching at penalty kicks, nightmare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Firstly, we were 3 - 0 up. Penalty was correct although the VAR could/should have looked at the build up. Alexander was off her line. Hey, we are Scotland. Amen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Why wouldn't it be? She broke the law so it was retaken, its not debatable. Blame the manager and players who bottled a three goal lead, not the officials who were simply, correctly, doing their job. Why didn't VAR check notice that the free-kick in the build up to the penalty was taken when a subsituted player was still on the field of play? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Tbf, she's several feet in front of the line when she needs to be on it (almost old-style). Retake is justifiable rules-wise. Try again please. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Oh i understand the rule. I was asking more where do you draw the line on what VAR is used for. When it first came in - i don't think checking the position of a gk at a penalty was on the list. It's pretty clear what it is to be used for - goals, penalties, red cards, and mistaken identity. Since the offence of the GK having both feet off the line results in a retake (if missed) i.e. another penalty, VAR can intervene. Edited June 19, 2019 by Ginaro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Muzza81 said: But the point is VAR worked effectively, it got the big decisions right. You’re talking about the application of it, which still needs work. I don’t like VAR one bit but tonight wasn’t some VAR disaster - no worse than the rest of the time it’s used. Had England been knocked out in such circumstances this place would be full of people laughing their cocks (sic) off. Penalty should've instead been brought back to the free-kick as subbed player was still on the field of play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginaro said: It's pretty clear what it is to be used for - goals, penalties, red cards, and mistaken identity. Since the offence of the GK having both feet off the line results in a retake i.e. another penalty, VAR can intervene. How many times did it intervene in the men's world cup last year? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Why didn't VAR check notice that the free-kick in the build up to the penalty was taken when a subsituted player was still on the field of play? That’s not what VAR is used for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Virtual Insanity said: The fact that the biggest competition in the history of the women's game is being used as an experiment like this by FIFA for laws introduced 2 weeks ago is a disgrace. Too right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: I'm not saying that was the reason for tonight's result but just in general that is how the majority of people in Scotland live their life. When this was first brought to my attention I was told to accept any compliments without trying to dumb down whatever it was that had resulted in the compliment. Since then I've found I generally feel a bit better about myself. Dindy you're one of the best fuds within the Killie fanbase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Dindeleux said: From when I was at school people got slagged/bullied/battered for being smart and knowing the answers in class. Mmm, not so sure that's just a Scottish thing lads. I went to school in England and smart kids were pariahs. The worst crime you could commit was to be a swot or a crawler. Us cool kids were thick as pigshit and proud of it. That said; I remember circa 1988 drinking in a pub in Glasgow while one of my sister's mates was defending his support of the SNP and Scottish independence. 1/2 a dozen proud Scots guys standing round him giving all the reasons why Scotland couldn't possibly succeed as an independent country. Fuckit, maybe they're right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, ForzaDundee said: Penalty should've instead been brought back to the free-kick as subbed player was still on the field of play. That’s not really the point in VAR though. Otherwise where do you draw the line? How far back do you go to pull up an incorrect decision? 89th minute goal and they need to rewatch the whole game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, RandomGuy. said: Why wouldn't it be? She broke the law so it was retaken, its not debatable. Blame the manager and players who bottled a three goal lead, not the officials who were simply, correctly, doing their job. I'm not blaming anyone, simmer down. I didn't say it was a wrong decision either. We going to use VAR to check for throw-ins and corners now though, or just cherry pick which laws it gets used for. Would they check for encroachment? I don't remember if any penalties were saved during last year's world cup - i certainly don't remember any taken penalties being reviewed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said: They did not bottle. They lost 3 goals in 17 minutes They bottled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Should Kerr walk for that? She's clearly taken this group as far as she can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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