Bully Wee Villa Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 She's gonna miss again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cement Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Var is racist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Seem to doing everything to help Scotland here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It's good for Scotland obviously but if that costs Nigeria a place in the knock out rounds that's really shocking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thank f**k for a ref with a Scottish grannie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just had a quick look through the groups and if, and it's a big if, we beat Argentina then you just know that Chile will batter Thailand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 That penalty retake was beyond harsh, but this is a huge result for Scotland. Gives us a much better chance of progressing if, and it’s a huge if, we beat Argentina 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said: Just had a quick look through the groups and if, and it's a big if, we beat Argentina then you just know that Chile will batter Thailand. Fortunately we have another blind chance with NZ v Cameroon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said: Just had a quick look through the groups and if, and it's a big if, we beat Argentina then you just know that Chile will batter Thailand. Nah, NZ will beat Cameroon 3-1 and they'll put us out on fair play points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Apologies if covered elsewhere but after tonight's games, is it win and we are through? From above post there might be one or two results elsewhere that could scupper us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, DavidMcG said: Apologies if covered elsewhere but after tonight's games, is it win and we are through? Not yet, but we only need one more group to go our way from the 3 others left to complete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Lurkst said: Not yet, but we only need one more group to go our way from the 3 others left to complete. So what results are we wanting from the other games? By the time of our game tomorrow night, could we go into it knowing 100% - win and we are through? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Being born in '97 my Chances of Scotland getting out the group calculator has never been used but it's getting a battering here. As soon as it's confirmed I'll book the flights to Lyon and then hope we can get a train to Grenoble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, DavidMcG said: So what results are we wanting from the other games? By the time of our game tomorrow night, could we go into it knowing 100% - win and we are through? Our game is Wednesday. Only one group is played tomorrow. We need either Italy to beat Brazil by 3 goals, or even more improbably Jamaica to beat Australia. So it's likely that even if we do win we'll have left a target to aim for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) OK, here's the way I'm figuring it. Scotland need to beat Argentina, so I'm going to work with a 1 goal win. More than that, will of course be better. Group A: Nigeria. Scotland would finish ahead of them on Goal Difference. Group B: China or Spain. Doesn't matter. Scotland will finish behind whichever one it is. Group C: Brazil, Australia or (unlikely) Jamaica. Currently +3, +1 and -9 on Goal Difference compared to Scotland. (Remember Scotland are winning by 1 goal) Wide open. If Australia and Brazil win (probable and possible) Scotland would finish behind them both. Likewise, if both games are drawn. Mostly likely, this will come down to goal difference against Brazil, with Scotland lagging. Big wins by Italy over Brazil or better yet, Jamaica over Australia would be nice. Group D: Scotland to finish 3rd. Group E: Cameroon or New Zealand. Currently -4 and -4 compared to Scotland, which is encouraging but still no guarantee. Depends on whether one of them beats the other by 5+ goals. Group F: Chile or (unlikely) Thailand. Realistically, Chile will beat Thailand and while they're currently well behind Scotland on GD (-6), they could rack up a cricket score here, especially as they'll know how many are required. In my opinion, assuming Scotland win on Wednesday, then Cameroon vs. New Zealand will be the game that decides their fate. Let's hope for a low score. Edited June 17, 2019 by Shotgun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lurkst said: Our game is Wednesday. Only one group is played tomorrow. We need either Italy to beat Brazil by 3 goals, or even more improbably Jamaica to beat Australia. So it's likely that even if we do win we'll have left a target to aim for. You're assuming that we only win by a single goal. If Italy beat Brazil 1-0 then we'd be dead level with them with a 3-0 win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 If Scotland do beat Argentina on Wednesday they would have, given the group, a very respectable goal difference. Yet it's still quite possible they'll be going home all the same. Frickin' harsh, but that's fitba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Shotgun said: OK, here's the way I'm figuring it. Scotland need to beat Argentina, so I'm going to work with a 1 goal win. More than that, will of course be better. Group A: Nigeria. Scotland would finish ahead of them on Goal Difference. Group B: China or Spain. Doesn't matter. Scotland will finish behind whichever one it is. Group C: Brazil, Australia or (unlikely) Jamaica. Currently +3, +1 and -9 on Goal Difference compared to Scotland. (Remember Scotland are winning by 1 goal) Wide open. If Australia and Brazil win (probable and possible) Scotland would finish behind them both. Likewise, if both games are drawn. Mostly likely, this will come down to goal difference against Brazil, with Scotland lagging. Big wins by Italy over Brazil or better yet, Jamaica over Australia would be nice. Group D: Scotland to finish 3rd. Group E: Cameroon or New Zealand. Currently -4 and -4 compared to Scotland, which is encouraging but still no guarantee. Depends on whether one of them beats the other by 5+ goals. Group F: Chile or (unlikely) Thailand. Realistically, Chile will beat Thailand and while they're currently well behind Scotland on GD (-6), they could rack up a cricket score here, especially as they'll know how many are required. In my opinion, assuming Scotland win on Wednesday, then Cameroon vs. New Zealand will be the game that decides their fate. Let's hope for a low score. Group C - Italy can put Brazil behind us, but only if they beat them by four if we win by one, three if we win by two, etc. Group E - if NZ win by two more goals than we do, and score at least two more goals than we do (ie 3-1 and 1-0, 4-2 and 2-0), they'd beat us on fair play points (unless they get three more bookings than we do). If Cameroon win by three more goals than us, that would put us out too. It could also come down to fair play points with Cameroon, they currently have 2 more bookings than us. Group F - Chile need to win by four more than we do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Shotgun said: If Scotland do beat Argentina on Wednesday they would have, given the group, a very respectable goal difference. Yet it's still quite possible they'll be going home all the same. Frickin' harsh, but that's fitba. It isn't harsh, though, is it? We've lost two games where we haven't played to our own expectations. In most sensible competitions we'd be out. Harsh is what happened to Scotland in the World Cup in 1974: through to the last 16 and even then unbeaten, including against the world champions, but still out. Here we have a chance against Argentina who have been organised so far – more than can be said for us. But they've been hounded recently by teams like South Korea, Chile and New Zealand. And against us they can't play the defensive game that has got them a point so far. If our players - particularly Little and Weir - can live up to their pre-World Cup billing, we should beat them comfortably. If that gets us through, then great. But hard to say we deserve it over Nigeria. Edited June 18, 2019 by Mr Heliums 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 We will be pumped out on goals scored or some shite like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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