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I’d disagree with you there big man. Geographically I’d say Fauldhouse would be better suited to EOS. If it were up to me I’d just keep the East/West divide basically the way it was in the Juniors with the West Lothian/Lanarkshire dividing line. There’s a bit of nostalgia in it for me though as I miss going up the county to those teams in the WL mining villages. There’s still some sort of charm in those old grounds. Despite a few changes here and there, those old style grounds like Armadale, Whitburn etc still have some sort of character about them.

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Being brutally honest after exodus it was harder to get boys to come play in league

Out of interest, how was it for you this and last season attracting players, did you feel the EOS was difficult to compete with or didn't you notice that much difference compared to before the exodus?

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10 minutes ago, jc1 said:

Being brutally honest after exodus it was harder to get boys to come play in league

If only I was 15 years younger, I was a decent left back back then... (I had to retire early due to an injury) ;) 

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If only I was 15 years younger, I was a decent left back back then... (I had to retire early due to an injury)  
Dont mention left backs and injuries

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On 13/02/2020 at 22:54, jc1 said:

Being brutally honest after exodus it was harder to get boys to come play in league

Does that make you think you/Fauldhouse were wrong in not transferring to EoS 2seasons ago.

Last year must have been soul destroying travelling to Fife every other week. Yes you may have had a trip down to Coldstream or Tweedmouth last season, but you could also have been playing the likes of Bo’ness and Blackburn; a club who definitely benefitted the move to EoS.

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My own personal opinion is I do wish we went now and hopefully something sorted for next season. No disrespect towards the ersjfa but with more talking of leaving the east juniors (speaking to other managers and its double figures) I cant see how it will work apart from back to joining up with north it's not something I'm wanting to do again personally

Does that make you think you/Fauldhouse were wrong in not transferring to EoS 2seasons ago.
Last year must have been soul destroying travelling to Fife every other week. Yes you may have had a trip down to Coldstream or Tweedmouth last season, but you could also have been playing the likes of Bo’ness and Blackburn; a club who definitely benefitted the move to EoS.

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Kudos to you JC for being open and honest about you opinion in a totally reasonable way. Nothing wrong with that even if some of your committee may have a different idea about the pyramid in general.

For what it's worth I think the traditional east / west boundary has been in place for a long time and there's  a reason for that - it's straightforward and works just fine. Some clubs, perhaps including your own, might favour one side of the geographic line or the other based on where most of their squad lives. But at the moment we are in the middle of the biggest overhaul of non-league football in Scotland in history, we've really got to think of the long-term and get it right from the start, I think.

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From an outsider looking in, Fauldhouse (and Whitburn, Armadale and Bathgate when it boils down to it) should be where we are at the moment, in the EoS Premier playing Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Broxburn, Penicuik, Hill of Beath etc.

I'm not going to get involved as to the reasons why they aren't, the clubs are more than capable of making their own decisions based on their own set of circumstances, but it's clear that there needs to be some decisions made to help get these clubs back to the levels where they once were.  A long term plan of where they want to be 5 - 10 years down the line, and IMO that plan needs to involve moving to the EoS and working towards gaining an SFA Licence.

 

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From an outsider looking in, Fauldhouse (and Whitburn, Armadale and Bathgate when it boils down to it) should be where we are at the moment, in the EoS Premier playing Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Broxburn, Penicuik, Hill of Beath etc.
I'm not going to get involved as to the reasons why they aren't, the clubs are more than capable of making their own decisions based on their own set of circumstances, but it's clear that there needs to be some decisions made to help get these clubs back to the levels where they once were.  A long term plan of where they want to be 5 - 10 years down the line, and IMO that plan needs to involve moving to the EoS and working towards gaining an SFA Licence.
 


If they four were in the premier, Blackburn wouldn’t be......

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4 minutes ago, surely not! said:

If they four were in the premier, Blackburn wouldn’t be...... emoji6.pngemoji23.png

 

Maybe, maybe not, (we finished above 3 of them in our last Junior season) but we know that historically we're small fry compared to those 4 clubs however we're enjoying the fruits of our ambition to better ourselves by being SFA members and playing in the Premier and Scottish Cup.

Those 4 (and others) should give themselves the same chance, but ultimately it's upto them to decide what they want.

Edited by Burnie_man

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From an outsider looking in, Fauldhouse (and Whitburn, Armadale and Bathgate when it boils down to it) should be where we are at the moment, in the EoS Premier playing Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Broxburn, Penicuik, Hill of Beath etc.
I'm not going to get involved as to the reasons why they aren't, the clubs are more than capable of making their own decisions based on their own set of circumstances, but it's clear that there needs to be some decisions made to help get these clubs back to the levels where they once were.  A long term plan of where they want to be 5 - 10 years down the line, and IMO that plan needs to involve moving to the EoS and working towards gaining an SFA Licence.


Spot on

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From an outsider looking in, Fauldhouse (and Whitburn, Armadale and Bathgate when it boils down to it) should be where we are at the moment, in the EoS Premier playing Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Broxburn, Penicuik, Hill of Beath etc.
I'm not going to get involved as to the reasons why they aren't, the clubs are more than capable of making their own decisions based on their own set of circumstances, but it's clear that there needs to be some decisions made to help get these clubs back to the levels where they once were.  A long term plan of where they want to be 5 - 10 years down the line, and IMO that plan needs to involve moving to the EoS and working towards gaining an SFA Licence.
 


Very few junior clubs in my experience are thinking as far away as 5-10 years. Most are thinking very short term and mostly only about who to appoint and who they can bring to the club. Most EoS sides would have thought this way prior to the intro of the LL and promotion to spfl football but this has focussed minds in senior football- whether striving for a licence or not.

On another thread I’ve pointed out that it’s unacceptable for clubs to have piss poor facilities for fans when they pay players and this comes from not having any real strategy regarding the future of the club.

Clubs need a long term plan and strategy and need to recognise where is best for them to achieve this. For some it will be senior, others junior and in some cases, perhaps amateur.

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13 hours ago, jc1 said:

My own personal opinion is I do wish we went now and hopefully something sorted for next season. No disrespect towards the ersjfa but with more talking of leaving the east juniors (speaking to other managers and its double figures) I cant see how it will work apart from back to joining up with north it's not something I'm wanting to do again personally

Tayside should join the north potentially in the pyramid. Armadale etc could join the west and become the sjfa league 

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1 hour ago, surely not! said:

If they four were in the premier, Blackburn wouldn’t be...... emoji6.pngemoji23.png

 

I think Blackburn United had already gone pretty much the entire way to overhauling their near neighbours in Fauldhouse, Bathgate, Whitburn and Armadale before they made the move to the Seniors, certainly off the park with the remarkable strides made in growing such a large community club set-up for boys, girls and ladies and in redeveloping New Murrayfield Park into the top notch facility that it now is. On the park too, I seem to remember that their last season in the Juniors saw them playing in the league above Armadale Thistle, who were by then already down in the South Division, and finishing above both Bathgate Thistle and Whitburn in the Premier Division.

 

Really though, each of these four clubs made a poor decision in not moving to the EoSFL when the chance was theirs at the beginning of the last two seasons. Had they done so, they could very well have been playing where they properly belong and that's against the likes of Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Penicuik, Broxburn et al. Hopefully it's a mistake each club will very soon rectify.

Edited by 12 Angry Men

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Camelon vs fauldhouse tomorrow 8pm at little kerse 
I might see you tomorrow but please dont bring up the eos the way this is going we could still be playing in the juniors next season with a league that we'd struggle to sign players for

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Staying juniors will be criminal!!! That's my opinion and we will see what happens. With who are all leaving what's left would be pointless. I'm an ambitious guy and want to be the best I can be not go stale

I might see you tomorrow but please dont bring up the eos the way this is going we could still be playing in the juniors next season with a league that we'd struggle to sign players for

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What are you meant to support the team or the grade some people might not like the wos or eos league but you need to do what's best for the club

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