the sniper Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Quick question. Has the change to a much more local league this season led to higher crowds or heavily reduced costs for Fauldhouse?Costs are less without all the tayside trips crowds I haven't noticed much change 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Costs are less without all the tayside trips crowds I haven't noticed much change Less Tayside trips in the EOS and I’d imagine crowds would increase quite a bit if the Hoose jump ship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalalalalala Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: Less Tayside trips in the EOS and I’d imagine crowds would increase quite a bit if the Hoose jump ship. Oh aye i can see hoards of Tweedmouth, Ormiston ,Arniston etc etc fans heading to Fauldhoose in there hundreds.Not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 If you’re ambitious and successful, it wouldn’t take long to meet the big guns again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Oh aye i can see hoards of Tweedmouth, Ormiston ,Arniston etc etc fans heading to Fauldhoose in there hundreds.Not.Yep let's use the small number of extreme examples to make a decision on whether to join the pyramid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Oh aye i can see hoards of Tweedmouth, Ormiston ,Arniston etc etc fans heading to Fauldhoose in there hundreds.Not. That’s just your arsey, blinkered, short-sighted view though. Open your eyes and see the bigger picture and the better long-term prospects. Only going to get harder the longer you leave it. Yep let's use the small number of extreme examples to make a decision on whether to join the pyramid Exactly. Some clubs might need to give it 2,3 maybe even 4 years in the EOS, but long term I doubt most fans will notice hellish much difference as teams gradually find their level. As it stands though, the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn etc are basically big fish in a wee pond that’s quickly drying up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamfinderscot Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Exactly. Some clubs might need to give it 2,3 maybe even 4 years in the EOS, but long term I doubt most fans will notice hellish much difference as teams gradually find their level. As it stands though, the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn etc are basically big fish in a wee pond that’s quickly drying up.I see your comment but looking at the league table there’s no big fishes in a small pond. As it’s not like they’ve ran away with the league, they do have rich histories but it’s not counting for anything at the moment. Bathgate also recent junior cup winners in last 20 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, teamfinderscot said: I see your comment but looking at the league table there’s no big fishes in a small pond. As it’s not like they’ve ran away with the league, they do have rich histories but it’s not counting for anything at the moment. Bathgate also recent junior cup winners in last 20 years Thats my point though - Historically some of the West Lothian teams have had a decent fan base and are still based in the same place where communities could potentially yield a reasonable enough support to at least sustain their clubs or maybe even allow them to prosper. Whether folk want to admit it or not, in the East or the country, staying in Junior football is the epitome of flogging a dead horse. It’s going nowhere, the level has regressed and folk have simply lost interest. Football fans are fickle though and folk will come back. However to get bodies back through the gates, it’s going to take a fresh approach and a bit of effort to get folk back in or gain a new generation of fans. It’s not going to happen overnight but if clubs make the jump to EOS starting afresh in a progressive set-up, the potential is there. Gradually, everyone in the pyramid will find their level and a wee bit of PR with the local community goes a long way to supporting clubs through the levels but some committees need to wake up and realise that folk nowadays are simply fed up and done with Junior football and any efforts to try sell it as a decent product. However clubs decide to approach things, the facts are that a far bigger potential fanbase exists in the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Bathgate etc than is currently being achieved. Staying in the Juniors will never see gate numbers recover or increase and will never have that ‘sell’ to get local communities tapped into. Moving to EOS at least brings the prospect of finding a level which sustains the club and yeah, you might need to spend a season or two humping some utter dross 10-0 in front of three men and a dug, but by remaining Junior and whether folk can see or admit it, the reality is that there’s more chance the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn etc are going to become these teams being watched by three men and a dug. Edited February 10, 2020 by 8MileBU 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sniper Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I personally have no idea what the future holds for the club but it's clear to see that sooner or later choices will have to be made about the future.With all the teams leaving you could see a scenario where you play some teams 5 or 6 times a season even if its local Derbys people will get sick of seeing the same games week after week 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & Red Socks Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Thats my point though - Historically some of the West Lothian teams have had a decent fan base and are still based in the same place where communities could potentially yield a reasonable enough support to at least sustain their clubs or maybe even allow them to prosper. Whether folk want to admit it or not, in the East or the country, staying in Junior football is the epitome of flogging a dead horse. It’s going nowhere, the level has regressed and folk have simply lost interest. Football fans are fickle though and folk will come back. However to get bodies back through the gates, it’s going to take a fresh approach and a bit of effort to get folk back in or gain a new generation of fans. It’s not going to happen overnight but if clubs make the jump to EOS starting afresh in a progressive set-up, the potential is there. Gradually, everyone in the pyramid will find their level and a wee bit of PR with the local community goes a long way to supporting clubs through the levels but some committees need to wake up and realise that folk nowadays are simply fed up and done with Junior football and any efforts to try sell it as a decent product. However clubs decide to approach things, the facts are that a far bigger potential fanbase exists in the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Bathgate etc than is currently being achieved. Staying in the Juniors will never see gate numbers recover or increase and will never have that ‘sell’ to get local communities tapped into. Moving to EOS at least brings the prospect of finding a level which sustains the club and yeah, you might need to spend a season or two humping some utter dross 10-0 in front of three men and a dug, but by remaining Junior and whether folk can see or admit it, the reality is that there’s more chance the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn etc are going to become these teams being watched by three men and a dug.Nail hit firmly and resoundingly on the head. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamfinderscot Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Thats my point though - Historically some of the West Lothian teams have had a decent fan base and are still based in the same place where communities could potentially yield a reasonable enough support to at least sustain their clubs or maybe even allow them to prosper. Whether folk want to admit it or not, in the East or the country, staying in Junior football is the epitome of flogging a dead horse. It’s going nowhere, the level has regressed and folk have simply lost interest. Football fans are fickle though and folk will come back. However to get bodies back through the gates, it’s going to take a fresh approach and a bit of effort to get folk back in or gain a new generation of fans. It’s not going to happen overnight but if clubs make the jump to EOS starting afresh in a progressive set-up, the potential is there. Gradually, everyone in the pyramid will find their level and a wee bit of PR with the local community goes a long way to supporting clubs through the levels but some committees need to wake up and realise that folk nowadays are simply fed up and done with Junior football and any efforts to try sell it as a decent product. However clubs decide to approach things, the facts are that a far bigger potential fanbase exists in the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Bathgate etc than is currently being achieved. Staying in the Juniors will never see gate numbers recover or increase and will never have that ‘sell’ to get local communities tapped into. Moving to EOS at least brings the prospect of finding a level which sustains the club and yeah, you might need to spend a season or two humping some utter dross 10-0 in front of three men and a dug, but by remaining Junior and whether folk can see or admit it, the reality is that there’s more chance the likes of Fauldhouse, Whitburn etc are going to become these teams being watched by three men and a dug.I completely get your point. The super league attendances have been good for the so called smaller clubs, but it’s effectively a cert that teams will move now as no other option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I completely get your point. The super league attendances have been good for the so called smaller clubs, but it’s effectively a cert that teams will move now as no other option. I think having no other option might be a blessing in disguise for some clubs whose committees are living in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sniper Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 All the talks of teams leaving the east region and the west where would fans of the club prefer us to be playing next season 1.staying junior 2 east of Scotland 3 west of scotland league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 All the talks of teams leaving the east region and the west where would fans of the club prefer us to be playing next season 1.staying junior 2 east of Scotland 3 west of scotland league Not a Hoose fan but I would like to see them playing 2. EOS next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 EoS. You'd win the league and be tier six in two seasons max and have a local league at a good standard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 EoS. Renew old rivalries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sniper Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 No ones for staying junior at least 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, the sniper said: No ones for staying junior at least Because the overwhelming majority have seen sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Personally lost all faith in the juniors after fox gate presented with evidence they acknowledged the evidence but didn't want to go against a refs decision for me that spoke volumes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Add that to every other club jumping it's a no brainer for fauldhouse to move. This is my own opinion not the clubs but they know how strongly I feel about moving 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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