Loki Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 You can't just look at unforced errors and think she should do better. An unforced error and a forced error is a matter of opinion. Some tournaments have an unforced error as any time you hit the net or go wide, and that doesn't account for the range in your opponents shots. On grass it is extremely difficult to get the ball high enough from a heavy top spin ball with out pulling the angle wide. If you give Joanna flat balls like Stephens and Kvitova do she will lace winners from her forehand and backhand. Strycova wlll be able to do that to Serena as well, but Serena has multiple ways to win points. Joanna doesn't. Generally when it comes to the latter stages of the grand slams in the Women's game, their tends to be streaky players that have never made it that far before and they tend to be playing their best tennis of their career. If Konta plays someone like that she is going to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Took Pella at 4/1 today as was impressed with his display against Seppi and Raonic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 hours ago, pandarilla said: I disagree. First of all, bottling it and lacking fight are two completely different things. Murray never looked like he lacked fight, but could be accused of bottling it early in his career. Most of the time it looked he couldn't cope with the higher standard over a five set match. Yesterday Konta was beating herself. She needed to dig in and fight - rather than just make another unforced error. She has a very effective style of play, which is based on a big serve and some big winners. When that's not quite on she needs to develop some fight and scrap it out. The lad kyrgios often lacks fight, and is either sublime or ridiculous (but but against Nadal the other night). But 'fight' in the sense you are using it is a completely meaningless word. What do you mean by it? And how would you know if she was fighting? You imply her making an unforced error equals lacking fight, which makes no sense whatsoever. She is obviously trying her best, therefore I don't get what else she is meant to do in that regard. You are mistaking being outplayed for being outfought, which is exactly what I was talking about in the last post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Djokovic imperious against Goffin. Straight sets, won 10 games in a row.Can’t see him being beat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Andy and Serena a set down 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Question for the rules experts........with regard to players challenging line calls, I’ve seen a few occasions where a player will first look to the umpire for a steer as to whether it’s worth challenging before actually raising their hand. Surely this is completely against the spirit of the challenge system ? Plus, I don’t understand why umpires entertain this assistance.Hope someone can enlighten me.......or am I just a thicko ? [emoji14]There was a cracker in a doubles game yesterday. Player serves, return comes flashing past them for a winner. The server then challenged the call on his own serve, which turned out to be out, and got to play the point again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Soares serves 3 double faults to hand Andy and Serena the 2nd set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I'm always very sceptical of these journeyman who have been utter shite their entire career then suddenly boost right up the rankings into the top 32 one season in their late 20s. They always seem to be of a Latin heritage. Very strange.His win over Cilic last year was probably a bigger shock. Latin players don’t have to travel to make enough money to earn a living. Lots of them will play all the challengers in South America as they can’t get sponsors, or they don’t get a break through at a Slam. Why spend all that money to travel the globe playing qualifiers when there is no money in it? Theres lots of exceptionally talented players between 100-200 struggling to make money. The fact that they can reach the quarter finals of a Slam before shouldn’t really be that much of a surprise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Soares serves 3 double faults to hand Andy and Serena the 2nd set.And then normal service is resumed. Ser-Andy 2 breaks down 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Both broken early in the 3rd to go 3-0 down 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Soares serves 3 double faults to hand Andy and Serena the 2nd set.Spot fixing alarm bells going off yet ? [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said: Spot fixing alarm bells going off yet ? Imagine if I had been in the press conference. "So Jo, are you involved in organised crime or are you just a shitebag?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Murray and Williams getting humped 4-0 in the third set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Murray and Williams getting humped 4-0 in the third set. Great. This ‘Murrena’ pish is making me consider taking my own life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: Great. This ‘Murrena’ pish is making me consider taking my own life. Come on FloPo, portmanteaus are the way forward. I agree with you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 And it's all over, Soares and Melichar stepped up a gear in the 3rd set winning it 6-2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Well that was fun. Soares and Melichar just a level above when it comes to playing actual doubles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Murray and Williams out and take the sycophantic pish from Sue Barker with them. With Konta dumped out and the English Womans team having their obligatory love-in, Wimbledon becomes a far more pleasant watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, meanmistermustard said: Murray and Williams out and take the sycophantic pish from Sue Barker with them. With Konta dumped out and the English Womans team having their obligatory love-in, Wimbledon becomes a far more pleasant watch. Just the cricket and Netball World Cups left to ruin the English summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Bautista Agut into the semis, beating Pella in 4 sets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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