Marten Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Shite state of affairs said: Can’t compare women’s football with juniors. The reason women’s football is developing rapidly is because investment is starting to trickle into it, and it allows more professionalism. The only reason women’s football was getting less coverage or attention is literally because of structural sexism - women’s football was banned here *because it was too popular*, and the men saw it as a threat. Thankfully now people are realising the immense growth potential of this and other women’s sports. If anything, Junior clubs with ambition could be exploring opportunities to set up a women’s team, and establish themselves as a top-flight club in the women’s game sooner than they can do so in the men’s. The former being useful in helping towards the latter, through greater brand recognition. Agreed, I'd love to see some large junior clubs setting up a women's team, although not as a separate "grade" but in existing leagues. That could actually be really good for the game at a grassroots level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Agreed, I'd love to see some large junior clubs setting up a women's team, although not as a separate "grade" but in existing leagues. That could actually be really good for the game at a grassroots level.Theres a Pollok FC Ladies that use the same badge as the mens team. No clue how closely both clubs are connected/related however. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 We played Dalbeattie a few years back in pre-season ...it was 3 dugs and a man.....In a friendly I assume?I was at Dalbeattie v Gretna in December 2017 - a crowd very similar to what you’d see at a run-of-the-mill West match in late winter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Do any of the '3 men and a dog' brigade actually have any statistical evidence they can provide as to the average numbers attending LL games vs the juniors? Or are these opinions ill informed hear say and popular misinformation, much akin to the £13 pound entry fee and a Tuesday trip to Elgin?Sadly, the junior game is beginning to see the fruits of the chosen leaders Labour..... No pyramid entry, falling playing standards, players and teams moving to other 'senior' leagues, falling income from sponsorship and an overall poorer product than was present 5 years ago. The very fact that certain people still believe that other leagues dont have big crowds because a friendly was poorly attended and the better players don't play in it is astounding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Darvel legend said: Aye here we go the good old lowland league nonsense again played in front of 3 men and a dog , right good stuff Steady J. You’ll need somewhere to go once you surpass Talbot in 2021 Edited June 11, 2019 by jimbaxters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvel legend Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: Steady J. You’ll need somewhere to go once you surpass Talbot in 2021 This is true mate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 As always, by about the bottom of page 2 the thread gets hijacked by Darvel/LL/EOSL nuts and goes off subject. Womens football is not going to go away and perhaps the best thing is for junior clubs to engage with it and see it as a way of expanding their income and making more use of their facilities. After all many clubs have the advantage of owning their grounds and can either make a charge for use of it, or fully embrace the ladies section and use it as an opportunity to get more income and help in running and maintaining the facility. It is a different game and in my experience causes a lot less wear and tear on the surface even in the winter months. It may be that the existing generation of club officials and league administrators will have to give way before it is fully accepted though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, garrellburn said: As always, by about the bottom of page 2 the thread gets hijacked by Darvel/LL/EOSL nuts and goes off subject. Womens football is not going to go away and perhaps the best thing is for junior clubs to engage with it and see it as a way of expanding their income and making more use of their facilities. After all many clubs have the advantage of owning their grounds and can either make a charge for use of it, or fully embrace the ladies section and use it as an opportunity to get more income and help in running and maintaining the facility. It is a different game and in my experience causes a lot less wear and tear on the surface even in the winter months. It may be that the existing generation of club officials and league administrators will have to give way before it is fully accepted though. it would be good in the winter months as the womans game plays in the summer months 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylangt7 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This is the type of mindset that needs to change at a lot of "traditional" Scottish Clubs, both Junior and Senior. As others have touched on already. Don't look at it as Juniors v Womens football. Embrace the change in society, engage more with your communities in providing that pathway for all young kids boys and girls all the way to an Adult Mens and Womens team. Worth it just to get all those local people participating in the sport, but has the added benefit of you encouraging a new generation and demographic of fans for the club. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Dylangt7 said: This is the type of mindset that needs to change at a lot of "traditional" Scottish Clubs, both Junior and Senior. As others have touched on already. Don't look at it as Juniors v Womens football. Embrace the change in society, engage more with your communities in providing that pathway for all young kids boys and girls all the way to an Adult Mens and Womens team. Worth it just to get all those local people participating in the sport, but has the added benefit of you encouraging a new generation and demographic of fans for the club. If Carlsberg did posts!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 8 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: it would be good in the winter months as the womans game plays in the summer months They've gone soft, they certainly played over the winter when Cumbernauld Ladies used our ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLad Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Been to a number of womens league games over the last few games. Glasgow City, Celtic, Hibs and there was pretty much always a bigger crowd than that of the local junior teams to me.It's a totally different atmosphere, and a younger crowd.The thing about junior games (in the east anyway) is that the age demographic is very worrying. Where are the next generation of supporters going to come from? Why would a kid of 10 decide to want to go to a Junior game? What's the motivation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPhone Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 men and a dog, haha. i actually feel sorry for the dog, he didn’t have a choice but to watch that LL pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 11/06/2019 at 21:20, iPhone said: 3 men and a dog, haha. i actually feel sorry for the dog, he didn’t have a choice but to watch that LL pish. Have you seen some of the summer signings into that 'LL pish'? David Brownlie Dean Cairns Ewan MacPherson Darren O'Dea Bobby Barr Willie Dyer Peter MacDonald Eddie Malone Nathan Austin Dylan Easton Scott Linton Thomas Reilly Michael Bolochoweckyj 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Have you seen some of the summer signings into that 'LL pish'? David Brownlie Dean Cairns Ewan MacPherson Darren O'Dea Bobby Barr Willie Dyer Peter MacDonald Eddie Malone Nathan Austin Dylan Easton Scott Linton Thomas Reilly Michael Bolochoweckyj Are any of them women? Or thinking of becoming one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, garrellburn said: Are any of them women? Or thinking of becoming one? Perhaps they are non-binary? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 22 hours ago, garrellburn said: Are any of them women? Or thinking of becoming one? Willie Dyer, maybe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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