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Dundee United

Partick Thistle

Dundee

Morton

ICT

Dunfermline 

Queen Of The South

Ayr

Alloa

Arbroath

Reckon United will finally click, Partick have a good team on paper. Morton have a great manager as do ICT. I’m not sure about Dundee, they look quite weak on paper in certain areas and will rely on Byrne and others also McPake could be awful.

Pretty sure that will be the top four though.

From fourth to eighth it could be tight, reckon Alloa and Ayr will fall away and Arbroath will be stubborn to break down but finish bottom.

No idea how Dunfermline will do, hope we don’t Falkirk it. Lots of unknowns.

 

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10 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

Dundee United

Partick Thistle

Dundee

Morton

ICT

Dunfermline 

Queen Of The South

Ayr

Alloa

Arbroath

Reckon United will finally click, Partick have a good team on paper. Morton have a great manager as do ICT. I’m not sure about Dundee, they look quite weak on paper in certain areas and will rely on Byrne and others also McPake could be awful.

Pretty sure that will be the top four though.

From fourth to eighth it could be tight, reckon Alloa and Ayr will fall away and Arbroath will be stubborn to break down but finish bottom.

No idea how Dunfermline will do, hope we don’t Falkirk it. Lots of unknowns.

 

I really don't know where Morton could end up until we see the assembled defence.

We have at last players in wide areas and more options up front than we did last season.

Midfield seems strong enough if a little lacking in creative players.

Hoppy is a good manager, but you can only work with what you've got and we have some unknowns in our squad who could turn out to be decent or duds.

Hard to tell at this stage...…... 

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Yeah, there’s a lot of people putting Morton in or around the top half based on Hopkin’s record with Livingston, but while he did a brilliant job there and we couldn’t have realistically found a manager with a better track record he didn’t just click his fingers and magically turn a squad of duds into excellent players.

We have two completely unknown goalkeepers and no centre backs yet. If we end up with duds in those positions we’ll be in a relegation battle regardless of how good Hopkin is at organising the team in front of them.

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At the mo:

1. Dundee Utd

2. Partick Thistle

3. Dundee

4. ICT 

5. Dunfermline

6. Ayr

7. Morton

8. QoS

9. Alloa 

10. Arbroath

With 4-9 interchangeable depending on signings. 

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7 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

Yeah, there’s a lot of people putting Morton in or around the top half based on Hopkin’s record with Livingston, but while he did a brilliant job there and we couldn’t have realistically found a manager with a better track record he didn’t just click his fingers and magically turn a squad of duds into excellent players.

We have two completely unknown goalkeepers and no centre backs yet. If we end up with duds in those positions we’ll be in a relegation battle regardless of how good Hopkin is at organising the team in front of them.

A lot of people not knowing much about Hopkin's short shambolic tenure in charge at Bradford City which played a part in them finishing bottom of League 1.

 

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1. United

2. ICT

3. Thistle 

4. Dundee

5. Dunfermline

6. Ayr

7. Arbroath

8. QOTS

9. Morton

10. Alloa 

Edited by Gibby82

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1. United 

2. Inverness 

3. Dundee

4. Partick

5. Arbroath 

6. Greenock

7. Ayr

8. Dunfermline 

9. QOTS

10. Alloa 

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Dundee United

Caley Thistle

Dundee

Partick Thistle

Morton

Dunfermline

Ayr United

Queen Of The South

Arbroath

Alloa

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Dundee Utd

Partick Thistle

Dundee

Inverness 

Dunfermline Athletic

Ayr United

Queen of the South

Greenock Morton

Arbroath

Alloa Athletic

Edited by NEFarab

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Dundee United

ICT

Dundee

Partick

Dunfermline

Ayr

Arbroath

Morton

QoS

Alloa

 

From 5th to 9th, you could mix and match. I reckon those 5 will fill those places in whatever order. Hopefully we aren't 9th again though.

 

 Edited. We are fucked.

 

 

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Between budget cuts, inexperienced managers and clubs still having a lot of business to do we've got more unknown quantities than usual this season, but I’m doing it before the League Cup starts to not be a shitebag. It'll be a surprise if the mid-table sides aren't an absolute clusterfuck doing everything in their power to fall into the relegation battle again.

Dundee have made some good signings and I think there’s a good starting XI in there, aside from their failure to replace that diddy in goal, but there's a lack of depth beyond that and there's always the risk that McPake could turn out to be an Alan Kernaghan figure. Even in their worst case scenario that he does turn out to be clueless though, the combination of their budget being too big and most of the division being too shite means there's surely very little chance of them missing out on the top four. Where most clubs in this division are always a bad appointment away from a relegation battle, the Dundee clubs should always be big enough to remain in the top half - see Dundee United still managing to make the playoffs with Csaba Laszlo in charge. If McPake is in any way decent they'll comfortably stroll into the top four.

Dundee United should absolutely piss this league. From Neilson taking over to the end of last season they matched Ross County's points total and while County weren't an especially memorable side as winners of this league go, they still strolled to the title with over 70 points. United will be a better team this season without a clown like Laszlo overseeing the start of the season or ringers like Loemba and Barton stinking the place out. For all that there are question marks over Neilson's in game management and the way they fluffed the playoffs was hilarious, he has destroyed this division before and it's the strongest squad they've had since coming down. I can't see anyone else getting close to them, unless McPake turns out to be a brilliant manager.

ICT have a weaker squad on paper than last season, but as was discussed on here last season Robertson seems to be one of the few managers in the division who's actually capable of adjusting his style of play to suit the players he's got and grind out results rather than focusing on some imaginary philosophy. It might be a stretch for them to maintain their form of the second half of the season consistently, but they should be around the top half regardless.

Ayr were in relegation form from December to the end of the season and have lost some of their better players from every area of the park. There are still good Championship players in there who would be an asset to most sides - you'll rarely be overrun in midfield with Andy Murdoch in it provided McCall actually plays him in the middle, looking at his goals to game ratio of last season Doolan making double figures is realistic, Ross is an upgrade on McDaid but unless their remaining business is going to consist of some real quality to strengthen the starting eleven another playoff challenge doesn't look likely. That doesn't mean they're necessarily slipping into a relegation battle when you look at what every other club is up to, but you wouldn't rule it out.

Morton are one of the biggest unknown quantities, with new signings being a combination of players who once had decent reputations but have struggled at previous clubs, a few unknown English ringers and a Brechin reject. This could very easily turn out to be a disaster if Hopkin can't get the likes of Muirhead & Nesbitt performing and the English free agents are closer to Morton 13/14 or Falkirk 18/19 standard than your average Caley Thistle signing. There's a solid Championship midfield there but both goalkeepers are unknown quantities and there's only one (injury-prone) centre back signed. How those areas of the park turn out can be the difference between 4th and 10th, and the longer we go without sorting the centre backs the more likely we are to scramble around and end up with crap, which is why we have yet more Brechin rejects on trial.

There's a lot of optimism about Hopkin and we couldn't have realistically got a manager with a better track record, particularly with the budget cuts we've made, but I think some (fans of other clubs more than Morton fans going by this thread) are getting carried away with expectations. Even if you look at what he did with Livingston as something he'd be capable of as par for the course as opposed to an incredible one-off achievement, he did it in his third season there having been relegated in his first, giving him a year of steamrollering League One to get to know his players and how to complement their strengths, building the spine which delivered promotion gradually. I think anyone expecting similar miracles this season when he's had a massive rebuild and the defence is likely to be the weakest part of the squad is going to be disappointed.

Partick are an interesting one this season, if only to get a clearer verdict on Caldwell. After going 13 games without a win up to the end of December, they then launched into comfortable top four form from January. Did that turnaround come because Caldwell learned how to get results and can continue that into this season, or did it come because Caldwell signed one standout player in Scott McDonald who carried the team with his goals and that was enough to cover up the rest of their flaws not being fixed? Could be a bit of both of course, but if Miller doesn't have the same impact McDonald did I'm interested to see if Caldwell can continue to get results without a centre forward who's too good for the division or if they fall back to bottom half form.

Dunfermline's approach to cutting the budget and going for lower league signings does seem less risky than others who’ve done it in that a few of them are at least players who've consistently been spoken about as some of the best players in the lower leagues and/or been chased by other Championship clubs as well, such as Turner and Lang. It's still a risk though and it's heightened by having a manager who the jury is still out on. They're another side where no position from 3rd to 10th would be a big surprise, but with Crawford's record so far I'm leaning towards being pish being more likely.

Alloa should be better equipped to stay up this season with keeping the core of the squad who did it last season - loan signings still to come obviously - however it all comes to down to the big unknown factor of Peter Grant. I’d had how some prospective managers could affect them in my head: a dud like Gary Naysmith would have guaranteed 10th with under 30 points likely, whereas Stewart Petrie would have given them every reason to be confident of 8th or better, but Grant was right out of left field. It could go either way but between his poor record as a manager and a lack of knowledge of part-time football I’m leaning towards failure being more likely. Regardless of the manager I do think it's worth noting the core of the squad who've played a part in some of their best seasons over recent years - Graham, Flannigan, Parry, Cawley - are all the wrong side of 30 now. If all of them start declining that's a huge problem.

While the jury is out on Allan Johnston and this is probably his last chance at full-time management, he's certainly an upgrade for Queen of the South and on paper they've got a better squad than last season. You do have to acknowledge that he set Dunfermline sliding towards trouble and their squad still has it's weaknesses, but at least they've got shot of Naysmith. Their defence was an absolute joke in the second half of last season and it looks stronger now, crucially with a massive upgrade in goal. There are always going to be questions of what happens when Dobbie finally gets a significant injury or stops scoring at the same rate, but of the defence is sorted out should be enough to keep them safe.

Arbroath won the title at a canter last season so that should put them in a better position to compete than most of the part-time sides who've come up in recent years having finished a distant third or fourth in the playoffs, but their form also had a downturn towards the end of the season and they haven't really strengthened yet. Of course they could have been playing within themselves with the title realistically won since February, but how much momentum are they actually bringing here? Meanwhile, as fantastic a job as he's done with Arbroath Dick Campbell doesn't haven't a good record in this division.

With the obvious caveat that every team still has signings to come and that 4th to 10th is pretty much entirely guesswork here:

Dundee United

Dundee

Inverness Caledonian Thistle

Partick

Queen of the South

Dunfermline

Ayr

Morton

Arbroath

Alloa

I could realistically see any of the sides I've got from 4th-10th finishing bottom. I’m not usually one for going for the obvious ‘stick the two part-timers as the bottom two’ approach to predictions but until they get the loans in after the League Cup starts it’s hard to see what can propel them up the league, aside from another full-time disaster. Could easily move them up if they add quality on loan later in the window while Ayr or Morton only sign cover or Brechin rejects respectively.

I’m totally unconvinced by Caldwell but Partick have defaulted into fourth by virtue of having fewer glaring weaknesses in their squad than everyone below them. Anyone could surprise like Ayr last season but I’m seeing a bottom half of the table as bad as last season.

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Dundee Utd

Inverness

Dundee

Partick

Dunfermline

Ayr

Morton 

QOS

Alloa

Arbroath 

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After seeing us effortlessly rattle 7 goals past our English opponents yesterday I’d say it’s our title to lose now.

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1. Dundee Utd

2. Dundee

3. ICT

4. Thistle

5. Ayr Utd

6. Dunfermline

7. Morton

8. QOTS

9. Arbroath

10. Alloa

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1. Dundee United
2. Inverness CT
3. Partick Thistle
4. Dundee
5. Ayr United
6. Arbroath
7. Dunfermline
8. Morton
9. Queen of the South
10.Alloa

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1. Dundee United

2. Morton

3. Dundee

4. Inverness CT

5. Partick Thistle

6. Ayr

7. Dunfermline

8. Queen of the South

9. Alloa

10. Arbroath

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On 31/05/2019 at 09:50, 80sPar said:
  1.  Partick
  2.  Dundee Utd
  3.  Dundee
  4.  Dunfermline
  5.  ICT 
  6.  Morton
  7.  Ayr
  8.  QOTS
  9.  Alloa 
  10.  Arbroath

Revised my earlier prediction

  1.  Dundee
  2.  Partick
  3.  Dundee Utd
  4.  ICT 
  5.  Dunfermline
  6.  Morton
  7.  Ayr
  8.  Arbroath
  9.  Alloa 
  10.  QOTS

 

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