LIVIFOREVER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, callum-ayr said: FTFY Livingston's. Fans. HTH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Wonder how Ayr fans are going to justify the use of the ‘n’ word. Mean something different in Ayrshire? Its the 21st century, stop using black b*****d in any context and these morons won’t be so emboldened. Black b*****d is racist. No true fan would justify it, the song is not meant to be racial but in the context it's far out of date now and needs either the words changed or stoped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, ali_91 said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, AyrExile said: That song has been around far longer than your club so not interested in any fake offence on behalf of others. Maybe in future you could sign players with a full range of English so there won’t be any confusion That's us telt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 And we dealt with it - some of the offender were identified and received a lifetime ban; I believe another receive a caution by the police. Every club has a few idiots; some clubs however do nothing about them claiming its all to do with rivalry.Don't confuse the two separate issues. Whoever came out with the racist abuse last night should be called out for it, and subsequently banned. I'm pretty sure every Ayr fan on this thread has said the same. The song has no racist context whatsoever. Whether or not we should stop singing it is about the grief it causes with discussions like this rather than political correctness. I'd personally prefer it to change but it's certainly not racist.I'm pretty sure a guy was charged with racial chanting (for singing the song) a few years back (in Dundee) but it was chucked out of court pretty swiftly. Context is everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Back to the football....watching the highlights, Dykes was onside for his "goal"...that goes in it's a more comfortable second half I reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: Back to the football....watching the highlights, Dykes was onside for his "goal"...that goes in it's a more comfortable second half I reckon. Hell of a tight anyway, we aren't having much luck with these decisions, Sammon was offside for the Falkirk equaliser too, but got the goal allowed. Hadn't realised we had as many chances in the 2nd half too, Ayr dominated it 2nd half but I counted us having 4 good clear chances (inc Lamies goal) in the 2nd half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Berwick Rangers = Black Engli.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffster Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: Back to the football....watching the highlights, Dykes was onside for his "goal"...that goes in it's a more comfortable second half I reckon. 8 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Hell of a tight anyway, we aren't having much luck with these decisions... Rushed the highlights out a bit and didn't pay much attention to the disallowed goal (probably as there weren't many protests from the Livi players) but it was very close. Not a great angle to judge from though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Based on that angle I'd say we got lucky. But to be fair we deserved to be two down at half time anyway. The first half was very poor from us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 They didhttps://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/livingston-fc-slams-fans-over-darren-cole-racial-abuse-1-4017375 And Falkirk with Dennon Lewis, Looks like Berwick and Stranraer have to up their game if they want to hang in this group. Probably looking for a bite, so i know I shouldn't, but since fishing for bites over racism is poor form IMO, I'll go ahead and remind you that a Police investigation was carried out following our incompetent boards rantings about racism which found no case to answer. This on top of various people who know anecdotally what went on that day and it had nothing to do with Dennon Lewis' race. Carry on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogieLivi Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 No comments yet on the Ayr left back double foot jumping in on a challenge against Dev.That was a straight red if I've ever seen one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 No comments yet on the Ayr left back double foot jumping in on a challenge against Dev.That was a straight red if I've ever seen one.I thought that was weird too. I winced, and expected a red (although I always expect the worst with these things). Collum just had a wee chat with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, pandarilla said: 8 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: No comments yet on the Ayr left back double foot jumping in on a challenge against Dev. That was a straight red if I've ever seen one. I thought that was weird too. I winced, and expected a red (although I always expect the worst with these things). Collum just had a wee chat with him. The cynical foul on the halfway line to stop us breaking on you also only got a wee word from Collum, must be keeping his card count down for the league games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: No comments yet on the Ayr left back double foot jumping in on a challenge against Dev. That was a straight red if I've ever seen one. Probably no comments as it wasn't in the highlights, I certainly said it was a red at the time, I thought Collum lost it for a wee spell around that time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: No comments yet on the Ayr left back double foot jumping in on a challenge against Dev. That was a straight red if I've ever seen one. Yeah I mentioned it on the Livi forum. Said to a mate at the time it was 2 footed, I think the fact Devlin saw in coming and managed to protected himself, and the Ayr player came out of it the worst prob saved him, but still should've been a red card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Yeah I mentioned it on the Livi forum. Said to a mate at the time it was 2 footed, I think the fact Devlin saw in coming and managed to protected himself, and the Ayr player came out of it the worst prob saved him, but still should've been a red card. Thing is a red card can also punish both sides in such a small "league" for want of a better description. If the offender was one of the key Ayr players and they had him missing for the following game, i.e. the Falkirk one, that would actually benefit Falkirk more than Livingston. Currently Falkirk are second in the "league" with 4 points; wins against Ayr and Berwick will put them on 10. Ideally from a Livi perspective we'd prefer a draw with Ayr winning on penalties. Historically our games at Stranraer havent always been comfortable affairs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Probably no comments as it wasn't in the highlights, I certainly said it was a red at the time, I thought Collum lost it for a wee spell around that time.It was in the livi highlights...along with a better view of the offside decision 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Durnford said: Thing is a red card can also punish both sides in such a small "league" for want of a better description. If the offender was one of the key Ayr players and they had him missing for the following game, i.e. the Falkirk one, that would actually benefit Falkirk more than Livingston. Currently Falkirk are second in the "league" with 4 points; wins against Ayr and Berwick will put them on 10. Ideally from a Livi perspective we'd prefer a draw with Ayr winning on penalties. Historically our games at Stranraer havent always been comfortable affairs. Yeah but Ayr look a lot better than Falkirk so maybe the red card and the player suspended against Falkirk would've helped get a draw in that game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Yeah but Ayr look a lot better than Falkirk so maybe the red card and the player suspended against Falkirk would've helped get a draw in that game. I suppose so; actually I don't think they looked better than Falkirk in the first half but definitely seemed significantly better in the second. Don't know what was said in the dressing room but it might be the reason the team decided to come out five minutes early. Hairdryer anyone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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