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1 hour ago, Twinkle said:

Without doubt my most disappointing afternoon as a United supporter. Usual, had a terrific day until kick off. Bus through was quality, boozer before hand was jumping then United put in a performance like that. To have a team with Robertson, Ciftci, Gauld, Armstrong etc and get turned over from a bunch of diddies like St Johnstone was a kick in the stones. To be fair, they farmer c***s deserved it and they cemented their place as Taysides second most successful team since the late 1970s

I was more gutted at the MyPa game tbh.

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On 16/05/2020 at 09:08, mishtergrolsch said:

Wilkie, Webster, Dixon, Daly, Weaver, Pernis, Swanson, Robertson...there were fucking loads of great signings. But for every good one there was a Warren Feeney or Roy O'donovan. <Shudders>

Even Jim McLean signed a few diddies - it's the nature of the business!

Hence why (going back to a previous discussion) you're better carefully investing in just 3/4 new (hopefully) first choice players rather than trying to buy a whole new side each summer.

FWIW - It won't happen but I reckon the club couldn't make a better investment right now than bringing Levein back in as Director of Football.

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On 15/05/2020 at 17:58, mishtergrolsch said:

...I loved watching that team.

Except Andis Shala.

Wash your mouth out!  He scored the opener at Ibrox in the quarters - without him we may never have reached Hampden...

On 15/05/2020 at 22:10, Granny Danger said:

Fans of clubs such as United will savour moments like these far more than entitled fans of bigger clubs.

After both the 2005 Scottish Cup final and 2008 League Cup finals, the victorious team's fans exited the stadium quicker than us Arabs - an absolute embarrassment.  Why would you choose to support a team if them winning a trophy doesn't warrant a 5-minute sing-song following the final whistle!?

On 16/05/2020 at 02:46, dundeeunited83 said:

Would u take Danny Swanson back for a season, getting released from st j???? 

Swanson was a phenomenal player who could single-handedly boss a game - a midweek game against St Johnstone (when JMW scored a screamer) and an away game at Hibs when he scored a left-footed curler spring to mind - but I'm not convinced he will have the legs to be a starter.  He could be a decent option off the bench, right enough, especially if we need someone playing infront of Butcher and Powers who can pass a football.

2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I was more gutted at the MyPa game tbh.

I'm still not over that...

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16 minutes ago, ArabFC said:

FWIW - It won't happen but I reckon the club couldn't make a better investment right now than bringing Levein back in as Director of Football.

That would be a terrible idea. He built that Hearts team that is about to be relegated. And before you respond about the work he did at United, I get that but it's 10 years ago now so it's not relevant anymore. Since then he's been a disaster at Scotland and was an even bigger disaster the moment the difficulty was raised at Hearts.

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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I was more gutted at the MyPa game tbh.

As was I. Had been saying for donkeys before the Fermers Final that they'd pump us, Tommy Wright knew exactly how to stifle our team and McNafortune didnt have a clue how to adapt. 

I bitterly hate McNamara. 

4 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

We have lost cup finals to worse teams than St Johnstone move along.

Depressingly I think I can put put an entirely different rival XI just from last few seasons

Curran

Johnson Nicholls 

 Slater Gillespie Rabitsch

Mason Quinn van der Struijk Toshney

Zwick 

I can't even find a place for Briels and Szromnick 

 

Side Show Bob Tim(?) Khul would make a good addition as would Adam Taggart who arrived around the same time.

Timothy Van Der Meulen too, may be a bit far back for "recent" though?

Mental to think we could probably make 3 starting 11s of utter tosh that would fumble about the lower end of the Championship from the recent past.

 

12 minutes ago, ArabFC said:

Even Jim McLean signed a few diddies - it's the nature of the business!

Hence why (going back to a previous discussion) you're better carefully investing in just 3/4 new (hopefully) first choice players rather than trying to buy a whole new side each summer.

Yeah I get that.  And ordinarily id agree with the 3/4 quality players idea but I'm of the opinion that for this up coming season we need more than 3/4 good players to stay out of the danger zone. Not to start up that debate again but we need two full backs for cover at least, Another forward. Two wingers. At least one first choice centre half and a midfielder that can pick a forward pass.

Mind you, the current situation will dictate how many we sign and we may not see anything for a couple of months yet!

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3 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

As was I. Had been saying for donkeys before the Fermers Final that they'd pump us, Tommy Wright knew exactly how to stifle our team and McNafortune didnt have a clue how to adapt. 

I bitterly hate McNamara. 

 

Mind you, the current situation will dictate how many we sign and we may not see anything for a couple of months yet!

We also had (have) an utterly shite record at Parkhead and, with the exception of two glorious days, a habit of shitting ourselves in the Scottish Cup Final.

It was the perfect storm.

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28 minutes ago, arab_joe said:

Wash your mouth out!  He scored the opener at Ibrox in the quarters - without him we may never have reached Hampden...

After both the 2005 Scottish Cup final and 2008 League Cup finals, the victorious team's fans exited the stadium quicker than us Arabs - an absolute embarrassment.  Why would you choose to support a team if them winning a trophy doesn't warrant a 5-minute sing-song following the final whistle!?

Swanson was a phenomenal player who could single-handedly boss a game - a midweek game against St Johnstone (when JMW scored a screamer) and an away game at Hibs when he scored a left-footed curler spring to mind - but I'm not convinced he will have the legs to be a starter.  He could be a decent option off the bench, right enough, especially if we need someone playing infront of Butcher and Powers who can pass a football.

I'm still not over that...

Very fair point, Joe. I'm off to get the fairy liquid! 

And I agree re Swanson. Skillful player who, if still fit enough, could make an impact off the bench at the very least. 

 

2 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

We also had (have) an utterly shite record at Parkhead and, with the exception of two glorious days, a habit of shitting ourselves in the Scottish Cup Final.

It was the perfect storm.

The perfect shit storm. 

I fucking hate McNamara. And Parkhead. But mostly McNamara. 

 

 

Did I mention I hate McNamara? Well just incase I didnt, I hate McNamara. 

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34 minutes ago, arab_joe said:

Wash your mouth out!  He scored the opener at Ibrox in the quarters - without him we may never have reached Hampden...

 

I've just had a look back at our goalscorers throughout that run.

12 goals - 4 for Goodwillie, 2 for Conway, and the aforementioned Shala with one, Casalinuovo, Webster, Kovacevic, David Robertson's arse and an OG from Whittaker at Ibrox for the rest.

Shala was obviously a cup specialist since he also scored in the League Cup that season.

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3 hours ago, ArabFC said:

Even Jim McLean signed a few diddies - it's the nature of the business!

Hence why (going back to a previous discussion) you're better carefully investing in just 3/4 new (hopefully) first choice players rather than trying to buy a whole new side each summer.

FWIW - It won't happen but I reckon the club couldn't make a better investment right now than bringing Levein back in as Director of Football.

McLean was manager for almost a thousand years; it’s barely surprising he signed a few diddies.  Some are dead, some are still under contract, some are both.  I’m going to forgive him for his substandard signings.

I don’t want Levein back.  We must look forward.

ETA. I was convinced that when MyPa scored they were going to go on and score a second.  It did nothing to numb the pain I felt walking down the road after the game.

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2 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said:

Yeah I get that.  And ordinarily id agree with the 3/4 quality players idea but I'm of the opinion that for this up coming season we need more than 3/4 good players to stay out of the danger zone. Not to start up that debate again but we need two full backs for cover at least, Another forward. Two wingers. At least one first choice centre half and a midfielder that can pick a forward pass.

The whole point is that it is nigh on impossible to sign more than 3/4 good players in one go.

For example, in the same transfer window that Jackie McNamara signed a future Champions League winner, he also signed Kudus Oyenuga!

 

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4 minutes ago, ArabFC said:

The whole point is that it is nigh on impossible to sign more than 3/4 good players in one go.

For example, in the same transfer window that Jackie McNamara signed a future Champions League winner, he also signed Kudus Oyenuga!

 

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Not impossible for a competent manager that's done his homework! 

Heeeere's Jackie....

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2 hours ago, arab_joe said:

After both the 2005 Scottish Cup final and 2008 League Cup finals, the victorious team's fans exited the stadium quicker than us Arabs - an absolute embarrassment.  Why would you choose to support a team if them winning a trophy doesn't warrant a 5-minute sing-song following the final whistle!?

I think this was my first realisation of the complete pointlessness of Scottish football.

Celtic won the cup, and their fans clapped a little and toddled off home. Whats another trophy to that lot?

Can anyone honestly envisage any team other than Celtic or Rangers winning the league in their lifetime?

Outwith a rich sheikh deciding to have a Scottish plaything, it ain't gonna happen.

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I've just had a look back at our goalscorers throughout that run.
12 goals - 4 for Goodwillie, 2 for Conway, and the aforementioned Shala with one, Casalinuovo, Webster, Kovacevic, David Robertson's arse and an OG from Whittaker at Ibrox for the rest.
Shala was obviously a cup specialist since he also scored in the League Cup that season.

I noticed that earlier, funny how your mind plays tricks on you as I would have sworn Jon Daly had scored 2 or 3 in the cup run.
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21 minutes ago, Dele said:

Who's the guy next to McNamara desperately trying not to shit himself? 

Aidan Connolly?

Sure he played against us at McDiarmid late on that season and looked quality.

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Connolly was more highly rated than Robertson at Queens Park apparently, for what little that is worth.

Like many player under Jackie, I honestly think that if he was coached correctly, he would've been good. But no one will know for sure.

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5 hours ago, ArabFC said:

The whole point is that it is nigh on impossible to sign more than 3/4 good players in one go.

For example, in the same transfer window that Jackie McNamara signed a future Champions League winner, he also signed Kudus Oyenuga!

 

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an excellent kit 

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